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by panta rhei
December 20th, 2012, 2:07 pm
Forum: Rant, Rage & Laugh
Topic: I miss the darkness
Replies: 47
Views: 14846

Re: I miss the darkness

i miss the darkness, too. here's part of a story that talks about this subject (written ten or more years ago): "(...) I go outside to get the milk from the farm. It is dark. It is good to be outside in the night. I walk quickly because I want to get away from the lighted areas as soon as possible. ...
by panta rhei
December 3rd, 2012, 2:32 pm
Forum: Poetry
Topic: gypsy woman
Replies: 6
Views: 371

gypsy woman

the roaming horde of iced leaves has been braked by wires over the fire pit the woman sits beside the cart in the shelter of the roving canvas the sleeping child wrapped up at her feet she is lifting a young dog from the sheepskin up to her breast and by nursing it she feeds the hungry wind in the s...
by panta rhei
December 2nd, 2012, 6:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

jack? what are you sorry for? no need to be sorry for anything!!!
by panta rhei
December 2nd, 2012, 1:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

I'm not trying to answer for Kurt, of course. He can answer himself. I just thought about your question, Panta, and decided to present my thoughts. In my opinion, the situation in the MIddle East definitely does affect the entire world. ok, so what you are saying, basically, is that the effects the...
by panta rhei
December 1st, 2012, 7:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

kurt - how does it hold the rest of us in limbo? how does it affect you and me other than by making us think and talk about it? and also, as i've said before, in my opinion this conflict is not about god but about identity and territory. for some, religion is a part of their identity - for others, i...
by panta rhei
November 30th, 2012, 6:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

@doreen: there was the united nations partition plan for palestine in '47, then (fast forward) there were other attempts, such as oslo and camp david, without the UN involved. then, 2002, the road map to peace by the madrid quartet (UN, EU,US, Russia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartet_for_the_Mid...
by panta rhei
November 30th, 2012, 4:37 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

are you referring to the 2002 road map for peace? yes, i agree - "a secure State of israel and a viable, peaceful, democratic palestine".... good idea. now, how to get those involved to agree upon it?? ...and thanks as well, doreen, for staying in this, and for providing your space for us all to tal...
by panta rhei
November 30th, 2012, 3:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

and p.s.: maybe what i would wish for is that you ( and others) were not only shouting out how wrong the current situation for the palestinians is (which is is! no doubt about that!!!). i would also like to hear you shout out about how wrong the present situation for israelis is - how it seems impos...
by panta rhei
November 30th, 2012, 3:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

Doreen Peri wrote: I'll repeat that both sides who have engaged in violence are WRONG. Both sides have blood on their hands. I believe this because I believe war is wrong. Violence is wrong. I'm a pacifist. I can't help it. I stand by my ideals.
again, i totally agree.
by panta rhei
November 30th, 2012, 3:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

I believe the human race can evolve to be peaceful and until we BELIEVE we can be peaceful, it will will never happen. So, I decide to BELIEVE it. i totally agree with you, doreen. and i wasn't specifically referring to you in my previous post. it is a general problem that too many people express t...
by panta rhei
November 30th, 2012, 2:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

yes to what artguy says - there needs to be a two-state solution. hard long way to figure out the necessary terms and solutions of that, though... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Palestinian_state and doreen, what jack is saying regarding the bias of most websites on that topic is exact...
by panta rhei
November 29th, 2012, 6:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

Panta... I understand it's complicated. That's why I was so pleased to find that website which is very informative. Yes, they've simplified it some, however, there is a LOT of information on that site and many links to explore. There's a lot of history presented and I like the site a lot. doreen - ...
by panta rhei
November 29th, 2012, 4:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

doreen, i can only repeat myself - the definition of palestine and palestinians (and the whole rest of the conflict) it is not as simple you you wish it to be (and as many others wish as well, including me, because a clear scheme of who is in the right and who is in the wrong would make things much ...
by panta rhei
November 29th, 2012, 2:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situation
Replies: 150
Views: 8474

Re: Comparing Middle East situation to Native American situa

jack, i think i understood you perfectly even without emoticon! :wink:

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