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by Yejun
November 17th, 2009, 8:38 pm
Forum: Literature & Film
Topic: The Knight/Wizard by Gene Wolfe
Replies: 0
Views: 580

The Knight/Wizard by Gene Wolfe

The Knight by Gene Wolfe. The Wizard by Gene Wolfe It is a coming of age tale. Where the coming of age never quite happens. A young boy from "our" world magically leaves for another world under vague circumstances. We are treated to a different reality of multiple worlds: seven with no place for ou...
by Yejun
November 16th, 2009, 7:23 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Memory
Replies: 7
Views: 2588

How about the dictionary: rhythm: 1. movement or procedure with uniform or patterned recurrence of a beat, accent, or the like. 2. Music. a. the pattern of regular or irregular pulses caused in music by the occurrence of strong and weak melodic and harmonic beats. b. a particular form of this: duple...
by Yejun
November 14th, 2009, 9:17 am
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Memory
Replies: 7
Views: 2588

okay, nothing?

What do you mean by rhythm?

Everything has its own rhythm?

Not what I meant.

I meant something that everybody can hear.

Unless you grew up in the 60's.

Personally, most of you guys seem deaf.
by Yejun
November 11th, 2009, 11:30 am
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Memory
Replies: 7
Views: 2588

Dreary drizzle on downtown pavement
Shoes - puddle slapping across the street
There's a strong rhythm here.

But you lose it here:
Sea gulls hang as kites below grey carpet above
I don't hear it coming back.

A different rhythm?
by Yejun
November 8th, 2009, 6:08 am
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Meter 3: Substitutions
Replies: 3
Views: 2194

The last two subs in traditional metrical poetry: 3. A trochee in the third foot 4. A trochee in the fourth foot At least initially these substitutions were preceded by a caesura, a break or pause in the line. Once you realize that, there's not much difference between these subs and an inverted firs...
by Yejun
November 7th, 2009, 7:47 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Memory
Replies: 7
Views: 2588

Well, I don't hear a rhythm overall, but it seems to fall into rhythmic moments (a three or four beat strong stress kind of thing). The allure, perhaps, is the length itself but that creates its own dilemma. To some extent, the charm has to be a feeling of honesty without being sensational (confessi...
by Yejun
November 3rd, 2009, 10:45 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Meter 3: Substitutions
Replies: 3
Views: 2194

Well, back to business: Substitution 3: the pyrrhic/spondee combination anywhere in the line Shakespeare, sonnet 30 When to the ses sions of sweet si lent thought S-u, u-S, u-u, S-S , u-S Here we have a trochaic sub. in foot 1 and a pyrrhic/spondee in feet 3 and 4. But he's got another one in the ne...
by Yejun
October 21st, 2009, 5:22 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Meter 3: Substitutions
Replies: 3
Views: 2194

Substitution 2: the inverted first foot S-u , u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S Substitution 3: the pyrrhic/spondee combination anywhere in the line u-S, u-S, u-u, S-S , u-S* Rereading the first post, I laughed at myself for starting with such an obvious point. Yet, my overall view is that they are not simply conv...
by Yejun
October 19th, 2009, 8:38 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Meter 3: Substitutions
Replies: 3
Views: 2194

Meter 3: Substitutions

There are no rules. I start with that sentence to remind you that everything I'm trying to explain in these threads is based on what poets do, not on what you or anybody else is supposed to do. With that said, over the years, people have offered descriptions and called them rules. Then someone comes...
by Yejun
October 12th, 2009, 8:41 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Variations
Replies: 24
Views: 5488

I quite like that one actually. It's not metrical if that's what you're asking. The structure matches the theme: the reader feels disoriented even as the speaker talks of disorientation. But, but . . . is that the only kind of poem he wants to write? If so, nothing I can do about it. If not, meter i...
by Yejun
October 12th, 2009, 8:26 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Free Verse: The Second First
Replies: 0
Views: 1430

Free Verse: The Second First

There were two. The first one began about a hundred years ago. The heroes or villains of that story were T.S. Eliot, Ezra Pound, W.C. Williams, Amy Lowell, H.D., Marianne Moore, Ford Maddox Ford and others. Feel free to add or argue that they weren't involved, it's an interesting story and one that ...
by Yejun
October 11th, 2009, 4:19 am
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: English Meter 2: the Iamb
Replies: 11
Views: 3621

If you're new to this stuff, you might want to read these a few times. If you're not, you probably will read these a few times. Don't worry if a foot or a line doesn't seem exactly iambic, or exactly 10 syllables, try to hear the rhythm and understand the meaning simultaneously. In other words, try ...
by Yejun
October 10th, 2009, 10:21 am
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Variations
Replies: 24
Views: 5488

I was not being sarcastic Yejun. I am glad there are those here who can discuss these things with you. Thanks. Um, I don't believe you. :wink: "a man has got to know his limitations" Dirty Harry Well done. a MAN has GOT to KNOW his LI mi TA tions, DIR ty HAR ry perfect. *Note: I've edited some of m...
by Yejun
October 10th, 2009, 10:09 am
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: Variations
Replies: 24
Views: 5488

I suppose you are right about me Yejun. I am lazy and apathetic When did I call you either of those things? I get very confused when someone accuses me of something I didn't do. I just want to read a poem Me too. I don't want to take a pop quiz whether I got it Did I give you a pop quiz? I'm so sor...
by Yejun
October 9th, 2009, 5:40 pm
Forum: Workshop & Prompts
Topic: English Meter 2: the Iamb
Replies: 11
Views: 3621

Terminology break: iamb : unstressed, stressed (u-S) trochee : stressed, unstressed (S-u) light iamb : unstressed, secondary stress (u-U) heavy iamb : secondary stress, stressed (s-S) Obviously, the light and heavy can also be used for trochees as well. Except perhaps when the poem is in a trochaic ...

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