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- September 15th, 2009, 4:51 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English Meter 2: the Iamb
- Replies: 11
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Two points can be derived from Van Dyke's poem: 1. Certain changes in the metrical pattern do not disrupt the rhythm of the poem overall. 2. The goal of an interesting poem is not to approximate the metrical pattern as closely as possible. But it doesn't follow that one need give up on meter altoget...
- September 12th, 2009, 8:26 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English Meter 2: the Iamb
- Replies: 11
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1. I know that Europe's wonderful, yet something seems to lack: u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S 2. The Past is too much with her, and the people looking back. u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S 3. But the glory of the Present is to make the Future free-- u-u-S , u-S, u-S,u-S, u-S, u-S, u-S, 4. We ...
- September 11th, 2009, 5:22 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English Meter 2: the Iamb
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3753
English Meter 2: the Iamb
This is my second thread on English prosody. The first one is here . I don't want any of these threads to be too long as my hope is that many people will find this stuff as interesting as I do. If all of this is new to you, please feel free to ask questions. If you already know this stuff, please fe...
- August 20th, 2009, 6:46 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
Performance? What seems to be uncontroversial is this spectrum: speech run---------------------------------------------metrical automaton To put it another way, you have two extremes. On the one hand, you have "Ah, just read the damn thing" and on the other you have, "make sure that everybody can he...
- August 20th, 2009, 6:44 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
In 1947, W. H. Auden said: It's amazing how little students know about prosody. When you teach a college class, you find they read [verse] either as straight prose, or as deadly monotonous beat as in Gorboduc. --quoted in Timothy Steele's All the Fun's in How you Say a Thing, p. 151 While Gorboduc w...
- August 20th, 2009, 6:41 pm
- Forum: Literature & Film
- Topic: Sounds from the past: Whitman and Tennyson
- Replies: 0
- Views: 572
Sounds from the past: Whitman and Tennyson
Tennyson
Walt_Whitman
Apparently, these are wax recordings of Whitman and Tennyson.
Compare them with this:
[Ezra_Pound
Honestly, I don't know what to make of this. Is it a joke? Is that really what he meant by musical phrase?
Whitman and Tennyson sound more modern than he does.
Walt_Whitman
Apparently, these are wax recordings of Whitman and Tennyson.
Compare them with this:
[Ezra_Pound
Honestly, I don't know what to make of this. Is it a joke? Is that really what he meant by musical phrase?
Whitman and Tennyson sound more modern than he does.
- August 17th, 2009, 7:25 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
Thanks. It's not just time though, it's also absent-mindedness. I'm posting this thread here and on Perdida's site concurrently and just forgot to add the next post here. Thanks for the wake-up call. :oops: When you teach English, one of the basic techniques is called a repetition drill. This is a s...
- August 13th, 2009, 7:21 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
This is the first of two wrap up posts. When you teach English, one of the basic techniques is called a repetition drill. This is a standard technique and one that post people intuitively seem to see as what teaching English is about. There are two problems with this idea. One, if you try to break u...
- August 13th, 2009, 7:18 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jury duty???!
- Replies: 5
- Views: 627
You hang out at City Hall, drink coffee, eat doughnuts, and wait to be called. You get on a couple of juries and are then kicked off for some reason or another. You're supposed to get some token money for the thing but it's so small that you can't remember actually getting the money and don't really...
- August 11th, 2009, 5:32 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
At another site (Perdida's), it was pointed out that my description makes the stressed/unstressed relationship sound too variable. It's an important clarification. I do not mean arbitrary or random. Yet, my focus here is not to constrict writers of formal verse, it is to show that meter is both a fl...
- August 7th, 2009, 9:09 pm
- Forum: Music, Spoken Word & Video
- Topic: Hypernova
- Replies: 1
- Views: 570
- August 7th, 2009, 9:08 pm
- Forum: Music, Spoken Word & Video
- Topic: Exene's poetry..
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1241
- July 30th, 2009, 11:06 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
Yes, they are important. So far this explanation is building up to a discussion of accentual-syllabic (stress-syllable) meter. The count of the syllables allows for the creation of and/or demotion of stressed syllables. If you only count accents, you can't do that. You have no counterweight and ther...
- July 25th, 2009, 6:54 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
Thanks, Doreen. Uh, I'll do it. Just so long as you know that I can't really do more than what I'm doing now. Time goes faster as you get older. :shock: ------------------------------------------ The following example comes from Derek Attridge's POETIC RHYTHM: Anyway, stressed versus unstressed syll...
- July 24th, 2009, 9:31 pm
- Forum: Workshop & Prompts
- Topic: English: Stress, Syllables, Meter
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3683
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. There are three types of stress: semantic stress: this one's easy. Any two syllable or more word has an accent on one of the syllables. If the word has more than two syllables it has a primary and secondary stress (generally, both are considered a stress in poetry...