So what? I fucking smoke. Jesus.

[jimboloco]

Good luck on quitting the faggots, man.....

a little history lesson, here,
why they call gays "faggots"
and ciggiez too, firesticks for the heARTH

bacause the sticks that are the small wood to kindle the big fires are called faggott sticks, and when they burned witches at the stake,
they put gays down at their feet and burned them first.


"FAGGOT"
(a bundle of sticks as used for fuel)
Stenciled Tree Branches Boound With Rope
Human-Size (6 feet tall)

1995
SCULPTURE
DAN PILLERS
http://www.fagart.com/abundleofsticks.html

So have compassion from history and THINK before you light up.
It is history repeating itself.

[stilltrucking]

I did not know that about the burning faggotts



Gay may not be moral by some peoples standards but it sure is normal, it sure is human,

I been thinking about creamation a lot, or burial at sea, morbid jim, Homeboy wants me to wait until october to get the motor cycle, no health insurance till then, my life savings in a vg-juice can, but it is a big can a quart siized so I feel pretty financialy secure. but I can't afford any broken bones right now. Glynda the white witch of the Taj Mahall still my carrott at the end of the stick, she told me once she liked to watch me workout on the exercise machine out on the breezeway. getting into warm weather again going to be out there everyday with my short shorts on and nothing else.

cigarettes, coffin nails was what I remember them being called in the old days.

[jimboloco]

handwrought coffin nails
gilt buttons
hut shaped urn from cremation burial

baubles
a fool's sceptre
alchemy of hope.

[jimboloco]

"Alas! poor Yorik,
I knew him well."

(it were them cigarrettes what don'im in, mates)
har har har!

Actually, on closer scrutiny,
the pelvis appears to be feminine,
so it was, perhaps, Yorika after all....

"Another Sick One, I'm Afraid
a whisper gone sour
soft reflections going nowhere
bombasted
a pillar of salt"*

...*from Judih Haggai's Spirit World Restless
"Upon Waking to Pour the Boiling Water,"
(a metaphor for wellness working in underground streams :>)

[stilltrucking]

Macabre me, but I definetly need some prepaid burial insurance. just that time for me.

I remember the day I saw this on TV, I was not a rebel, I believed every lie the government told me. This did not mean much to me at the time.
"I was to see that sight again, but once was enough. Flames were coming from a human being; his body was slowly withering and shriveling up, his head blackening and charring. In the air was the smell of burning human flesh; human beings burn surprisingly quickly. Behind me I could hear the sobbing of the Vietnamese who were now gathering. I was too shocked to cry, too confused to take notes or ask questions, too bewildered to even think…. As he burned he never moved a muscle, never uttered a sound, his outward composure in sharp contrast to the wailing people around him."

"Following his death, Thich Quang Duc was cremated and legend has it that his heart would not burn. As a result, his heart is considered Holy and is in the custody of the Reserve Bank of Vietnam."______________________________________________

War is a geography lesson for Americans.

[izeveryboyin]

wow! Thanks guys for the fantastic response and input. I had only meant this lightly and hear within one post we've got a heated debate, a suppost group, and a history class. Right on. I'll have to assert my useless rights more often!
--K

[Glorious Amok]

i smoked a pack a day for 13 years. yep, 13. quit 6 years ago. yep, 6 years. however, in the last year or two, when my life has hit upon rocky-ass times, as lives often do, i have swallowed my tongue and forked over the $57 a pack it now costs to purchase a package of cigarettes, and endeavored to spark back up that old habit.

but try as i bloody might, there's just no rekindling it. cigarettes make me fucking retch!! gack! with a capital G!

when i'm drinking, i can stand a drag or two from somebody else's smoke, but no more than that. i am no longer physically able to smoke a whole one to myself. try as i bloody well might.

and i would smoke, if there was one cigarette alive that actually tasted good. one that smelled good. one that didn't immediately cause my dinner to relocate into my ears. but there is none.

none, i tell you! and i would so love to be sitting around flicking a long slim one, rolling it pensively along the inside curve of some elegant ceramic ashtray. i would happily pay the $57 a pack for that lingering luxury. but there is nothing to suit the bill.

cigarettes are just EWEY! i don't know how i did it for all those years.

[Doreen Peri]

$57 a pack??????

yer kidding!

really???? my GOD!

that's canadian dollars?

how does that equate to US dollars?

maybe i should move to canada.... i'd stop smoking for sure

[mousey1]

US dollars? Probably $3.00

Move to Canada Doreen? I dunno, we're pretty cool here....or is that cold....or is that freezing.....or is that fucking freezing....ya, that's it fucking freezing!!!!!!!!

[bennie]

I smoke one or two
sometimes
when I'm drinking
cause
I get
a nicotine
buzz

A pack of cigarettes costs $57 in canada? Man, that's cheap. In the UK it costs £374 for a pack of ten. And you're only allowed to purchase them after you smear your fist across a little tray of broken glass that sits on the shop counter. Yes. AND, after that, they have this donkey in all shops that sell fags and you have to lick its arse hole.

It's the law in this country
that before you buy fags
you have to smear your fist
in broken glass
and lick a smelly
donkey's ass.


As W.B. Yeats said: "donkey's have asses but do asses have donkeys?"

His reply came years later, when Marlon Brando was at a film premiere, he said: "meh meh meh meh....uh meh....asses have donkeys. sure they do. but only after a drink or two."

[stilltrucking]

in hoc signos vinces (I.H.S.) -

Well it is black history month again.

How many times have you lit a cigarette just to let it burn away in the ashtray like a piece of incense?

The 973 chemicals in cigarettes is low I think, I thought there were over a thousand.

I smoked the past ten years because I wanted to die. A lot of self pity going on. You guys are a lot healthier than I am. You smoke because you enjoy it.right? A death wish has nothing to do with it.


. Vonnegut hit the nail on the head when he was talking about his Pall Malls and suicide. For me every drag satisfied the death longing I was born with



You are write about the native American and their use of tobacco. Sure we were given every seed bearing plant for our use but they did not chain smoke I betcha.


Notes:
Freud* laid the foundation for a psychological theory of the "death wish;" ...
form of the orgasm (the death instinct--ie, the return to inanimate matter

Freud Beyond The Pleasure Principle
Eros and Thanatos

Thanatos, the god of Death; a child of Nix (Night) and the brother of Hypnos (Sleep).


Smoke um if you got um

this was a mistake I meant to put in the spoken word string
http://www.studioeight.tv/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6248

but I like it here too.

[lovingpenfull]

As I said before all went down and my post was lost, I quit smoking two years ago after several years of childhood smoking, and it is good to be quit, but here in India they have these little strange cigarettes, bidis, they have some outter leaf, not tobacco, enclosing dry harsh tobacco inside and out of boredom I have taken to smoking those during the last few months. I am quite sure that I will not fall back into smoking, but I can feel the comfortable-ness of this habit setting its hooks in again. My lungs hurt already though.

Now I want to ask two questions of E-Dog:

Do you drive a car, burn fossil fuels?

and

What is that pic that you have, did you draw that on Window's Paintbrush or something?

I agree with you E-Dog that it is a violence to wave a daggar in someone's face as it is a violence to pollute the air others breath, in principle I agree whole heartedly. But, I don't know you, though I can probably safely assume you drive a petrolum powered automobile of some sort. On a global scale you are guilty of the same activity you are condeming here. Again, if you don't drive a car, nevermind, and nevermind if this has been addressed previously in this cumbersome thread, I did read it all.

But all this seems to me to be a symptom of a deeper ill in the world's culture: the hell with the rest of everyone else, I am going pollute the air (or whatever it is) in one way or another because I am addicted to either fast transportation or nicotine or both (or whatever other crime), and I don't care for anyone but me, and I am also sort of a masochist as well as I am driven to harm myself.

When you drive a car you are globally smoking and this is just as detremental, even more so, than is smoking cigarettes.

So, why do we want to smoke up the place in the first place? We have a diseased culture, we suffer the lack of a healthy set of core modes of ethical and spiritual reasoning, and these are some of the effects of that. Attack the root, not the shoots, and then we can get somewhere I think.

But again, I agree, fuck that asshole over there smoking a tobacco penis, stinging my eyes and making me cough, is he so self absorbed that he doesn't care at all for the lungs of others?

Ever heard this one as a joke, like after a meal or in a pub or something: I would appreciate it if you wouldn't eat while I'm smoking.(?) I heard that one the other month, that was funny.

Quit and stay quit and ammend that violence in the root of yourself that moves you to pollute your heart chakra and the world.

[Anonymous-one]

Just an aside : it's 57.00$ a carton of 8 packs.

G.A.: I tought my smoking days were over when
i read your post.

[hester_prynne]

I tell my daughter that the best way to stop smoking is to never start. So far so good......
I wish it hadn't been so easy for me to start, way back when cigarettes were healthy. Remember those days? When there were mom and dad's cigarette butts strewn all over the house??????? And all those sexy blue billows of fog patches in random places everywhere to walk through on the way to the bathroom???????

Sure, I smoke cigarettes, maybe 3/4 of a pack a day, sometimes more. Part of what keeps me smoking is that I get so mad at all the fucking lobbying against it. I know it's a cover up to the fact that the freakin air we breathe is the worst of it. I mean, after all, the president in his state of the union address confirmed it when he chided us all for being addicted to oil....the fumes of which are proven to cause cancer. How many cars have driven past you today? How many fumes in the air have you been secondhandly exposed to? Where are the lobbyists for that?

Makes me so fucking mad, i'm lightin up right now.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what a comfort it is, from the brazen smog of lies we live and breathe in......twenty four seven!
H

[stilltrucking]

ten four hester. If I new the world was going to end at mid night I would be out buying a pack of Merit Ultralights right now. I would brobably still be smoking if I could have continued to smoke those. if not for the cost. They was cheap in Virginia but expensive down here.

Smoke them if you got them
Just let me stand down wind and catch a bit of second hand smoke.

Bye Bye Black bird and is that all there is Peggy Lee. good choice