Arrest Bush and Chenney

[gypsyjoker]

You are right tony, I don't have to go there, I can read the same crap here.

I can only wish I was normal too.

It sounds like a lot of fun

Yes I am sorry I am angry

You don't sound angry to me

I am glad one of us is not angry

sincerely
still trucking et al

[tonyc]

Gee, I feel sooooo diminished, you're soooo witty, how do you do that?

People can spin, lie, twist my words, attack me, get pissed, visit a neo nazi site, throw a tantrum or any thing else Bush worshippers resort to.
The fact remains, Bush and his worshippers have destroyed this country and need to be held to the same account they expected of Saddam, Bin Laden and every other psychotic nutcase.
Let's move on and forget the past ain't gonna get it.
Tell that to the millions of people who died in Iraq over Bush's lies or the millions of Americans empoverished by Bush's con jobs.
America and the world deserves justice..jail Bush and his angry worshippers.

[stilltrucking]

well there it is
I am a Bush worshipper

Thanks

[XPress]

Bush is wishing for more like you.

Bush doesn't even know I exist, and he certainly doesn't care about my opinion.

If you think he's wishing for more like me you've skewed reality off the face of the planet.

With that attitude, we should've never convicted Charlie Manson.

Well there is actually a good argument for Manson never having been convicted, I mean he was found guilty of "conspiracy to commit the Tate/LaBianca murders", he was never actually there.

By his account he was just some off his face psycopath sitting on the Spahn Ranch, playing what if, and some guys took him seriously.

Now, obviously, Manson is a dangerous psycopath, so I'm not actually suggesting he be freed, but it does make an interesting analogy.

Manson wasn't jailed, because he was a dangerous psycopath, he was jailed because there was public outrage over the Tate/LaBianca murders, and the system had to provide "results", to placate emotional outbursts.

Maybe, had they dealt with the issue of Mansons mental health instead, then we might have avoided some of the other psycopaths that wreaked havoc, over the next few years?

It's all what if's again, but it is interesting that you use Manson as your example.

America deserves JUSTICE

Justice for what?

It sounds more like some people are calling for absolution, through a sacrificial lamb.

Since when does this country let crimes go by the philosophy of "so what, lets's move on"?

That's actually not what people are saying, in a way that's the complete opposite of the argument.

People are saying "Let's learn from the mistakes", so we can move on, rather than "Let's offer up a sacrifical lamb" and pretend we've moved on.

[XPress]

I am sure it must be the Jews, I was just reading something about this the other day on David Duke's website.

It's ALWAYS the jews, or the nazis, or the masons, or 12 foot lizard people, aliens, or Bush!

[stilltrucking]

Yes we got to watch out for those lizard people. I think Bush is one of those death lizards from outer space.

Sorry for telling you to fuck off tony
this is your thread, if I don't like it I should sit on my hands and not reply.

[XPress]

well there it is
I am a Bush worshipper

Thanks

Of course you are, I told you, it's ALWAYS the jews, or the nazis, or the masons, or 12 foot lizard people, aliens, or Bush!

I remember when I was... around ten or eleven years old, and I was arguing with my sister, as brothers and sisters are prone to do at that age.

We were on vacation, at the coast somewhere, exactly where escapes me, right now, but there we were, arguing away, and the argument was starting to get annoying, and my sister was getting very annoying, so I yelled at her:

"YOU FUCKIN' SUCK!!!"

It couldn't have been worse timing, as my parents walked into the room, right at that minute.

"WHAT DID YOU SAY?"

"Nothing..."

"YOU WILL NOT USE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT!"

"But she did..."

"THAT IS NO EXCUSE!"

& he was right, it was no excuse, I had no genuine defense, trying to blame my sister, but it's what a kid does at that age.

Yes, Bush was an odious man, and he did a lot of things that are quite inexcusable, but as I hinted above, the Bush family has been notorious for over 100 years, so it's not like people weren't forewarned, and Bush was re-elected, in 2004, so it's not like, having made an initial "mistake", America didn't do it again.

Like I said, people get the President they deserve.

Bush didn't just walk into the White House, and take the job, he was elected, and he was elected after a campaign that was heavily funded, so it's not just about one man, it's about virtually every man, and woman, in the country.

All those who campaigned for him, all those who funded him, all those who voted for him, all those who purchased goods from the people who funded him, those that were apathetic, etc., et.c, etc.

Even those that voted "against" him can't exactly claim to have clean hands, I mean, with his record, what sort of opposition was needed to beat him in 2004?

I saw an interesting peice of correspondence last November, from a senior Republican, talking about the election, and the defeat of McCain.

I can't remember it verbatim, but it was saying that, during the primaries, it became clear that the Democrats would select Obama, or Clinton, both were Democrats, so 50% of the population wouldn't vote for them, even if their lives depended on it, and Obama was black, and Clinton was a woman, so there were others who would never vote for them, even if their lives depended on it, so all the Republicans had to do was pick a credible candidate, and distance him from Bush, and they'd have a shoe-in, but instead they picked McCain.

Ok, that's a bit of an over generalization, but the point is that this Republican was looking for his party to take "part of the blame", and I think it's the same in the case of the Bush elections, the opposition has to take at least part of the blame as well.

I mean if Bush was bad, then how come they couldn't defeat him in a simple democratic election?

& I think that just about covers all of America, every single person has a little bit of blood on their hands.

It's easy to get angry, and scream "Hang Bush the traitor!", but it takes a little something extra to say "Hang on, how did this happen, and what part did I play in this?"

How many people, between 2000 and 2004, drove home in their GM car, fuelled on Exxon gas, paid for from their Bank of America account, to their home, got inside, openned the FedEx parcel that had arrived, checked the answer phone, on their AT & T line, cracked open a Budweiser, turned on their General Electric light bulb, switched on their TV, watched a Time Warner show, or a Disney DVD, before turning on their computer, with it's Microsoft operating system, and coming online to bitch about Bush?

Because everyone who did one, or more, of the things above, contributed to Bush's campaign.

That's a lot of people to arrest...

[tonyc]

Man you guys throw such a good pity party, you got me crying...and I don't cry..so sad!
So anyway, we can all agree that the Bush worshippers are big on spin, little on substance. They did spin us into the worst recession since the great depression while telling us the "economy is strong" and "we're a nation of whiners".
I remember during Bush's last year, they where already referring to his reign of terror, as the past, even though he was still in office.
Got to give it to em, they try hard, too bad the world isn't full of dumbasses, it might've just worked.
So, we all agree that Bush and his worshippers are a dangerous bunch of angry, money grabbibg liars, hell bent on destroying America.
I knew we all would agree, even the Jew surrendered to logic, amazing what can be done with anger manegement.
Arrest Bush, and his followers, America deserves justice!!!

[stilltrucking]

I don't agree with nothing you saying.

You call it logic

I call it hateful

I am just apologized for telling you to fuck off

This is your thread.


Enjoy it.

I am going to back on out of here.

[tonyc]

tonyc

even the Jew surrendered to logic

stilltrucking

I don't agree with nothing you saying.

You're too easy, better get out of the attack business.
O.K, Ill agree with you, the Jew is incapable of logic, he's blinded by anger and self pity.

You call it logic
I call it hateful

So my logic is called "hatefull" and you telling me to fuck off is called???????

I am just apologized for telling you to fuck off

As I said in an earlier thread about apologies...I don't accept nor offer them, they're meaningless. You dam well know you meant it, you typed it.
So I apologize means what?..I feel like an ass for being one?

I am going to back on out of here.

No, please don't leave, we just started to communicate!!!

[stilltrucking]

you have my sympathy
what more can I say

Have fun on your run.

[XPress]

Arrest Bush, and his followers, America deserves justice!!!

See above, and then let me know what they say
when you hand yourself in
or is it only a sin
when it's the next guy?

You're right
there's agreement
across the board
that there's a man
we should not laud
but everyone else is saying
"I'm not so great either"
so why have a fever
and rant and rage
on this studio8 page
at the next guy?

My hands are not clean
are yours?
Do you want applause
for burning the witch
at the stake
for the whole towns mistakes?

Meh, that's not my scene
not a place that I've been
or plan going to
I know
maybe I should rant some more
but frankly it becomes a bore
when I got a crick in my neck
thinking "what the heck?"
about yesterday
when a new day
is dawning

Heed the warning
see the signs
learn to dance a different way
so that when you find
another day
you're faced
with a new ghoul
you do not make mistakes again
and go elect another fool!

The end

[tonyc]

stilltrucking

what more can I say

Not much, I think you did a pretty good job on yourself already, good job!!

XPress

or is it only a sin when it's the next guy?

My hands are not clean

you do not make mistakes again
and go elect another fool!

Oh, I get it, Charlie tried that...."let the first amongst you cast the first stone", "I'm a a product of what you made me"....on and on.
So, what you're saying is everyone should be held accountabe for their crimes except Bush and his gang of pirates.....got it.
The problem is, what do you tell the widows of all of those men who died over his lies?
Sorry for your loss, but you're not perfect either, let's not look back, by gones are by gones.
Again..Arrest Bush, and his followers, America deserves justice!!!

[stilltrucking]

At this point I have nothing but pity for you

carry on

[Doreen Peri]

I agree that Bush and Cheney should be held accountable.

The war in Iraq was started using false pretenses. Straight out lies.

They are criminals and should be treated as such.

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though I can see XPress' reasoning .... I get what he's saying.... I'm much more inclined to agree with Tony that they should be tried for crimes

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I don't agree that all the voters who voted for them should be arrested, though. That's ridiculous.

The voters didn't vote for them expecting them to commit crimes. They are not complicit in their crimes.

I DO think they were stupid to vote for them but that doesn't make the voters criminals.

Bush and Cheney, however, committed criminal acts and should be held accountable.

Bush should have been impeached years ago.