What's the point?

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Post by mousey1 » September 23rd, 2005, 1:59 am

It's only 11:00 my little K&D...not late at all for a mousey like me.

Go ahead and have your talk show. I'm afraid I tend to be a little braindead as the day winds down....'course I'm usually braindead so no one's bound to notice!!!

You are a nightowl tho! My bed is beckoning me and I'll be asleep before my head hits the pillow.

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Post by stilltrucking » September 23rd, 2005, 2:29 am

the point
is not static
but is the focus
(now)
that is a good point.

Maybe i am missing the point here
confusing the point with purpose?
I imagine Georgie sitting in that church in Midland Texas and he hears those fatal words, "God has a plan for your life" son of bitch it was all down hill from there,
got dam him
and
and god dam his god dam god.
Certainly static, you got to admit that.

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Post by Doreen Peri » September 23rd, 2005, 4:22 pm

This thread drives the point home.

There is no point at all.

It's like I have seen a white light!

Thank you all for clearing up this matter.

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Post by mnaz » September 23rd, 2005, 4:52 pm

What is the point?

Fill in the blank.

- - - - -sorta like...


What is the meaning of life?

Bring your own meaning..... or


How do you do the jam?

Bring your own muse..

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and so it goes...

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Post by Doreen Peri » September 23rd, 2005, 4:55 pm

"And so it goes."

I love that. I used to say that all the time. Kurt Vonnegut. Which book? Hmm.... Cat's Cradle? I can't remember. Which character said that all the time?

"And so it goes."

Pointless.

Yes.

Exactly!

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Post by Doreen Peri » September 23rd, 2005, 4:56 pm

It was Slaughterhouse Five.
But who was the character?
Do you remember?

I loved that book. The movie was excellent, too.

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Post by mnaz » September 23rd, 2005, 5:30 pm

Never read the book.... but I will add it to my list...

I think the phrase was more a 'motif' of the book, not necessarily uttered only by one character...

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Post by Doreen Peri » September 23rd, 2005, 5:35 pm

Maybe. I'm trying to remember. It might have been the narrator's voice. The main character id Billy Pilgrim. (I think)... and I don't think it was him that said it. I highly recommend the book. And the movie. Not often am I pleased with how a great book turns out in a movie, but this time was an exception. It was excellent! Of course, no movie can portray the richness of a book in only 2 hours (unless the book was really short... lol)

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » September 23rd, 2005, 7:20 pm

George Roy Hill, who directed "Slaughterhouse Five", and is personally responsible for much of the film's fine style and gentle but powerful irony, also directed "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" and some other films you might recognize:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001351/

George Roy Hill was an enormously talented man.

One of the most thrilling moments in the film ( for me) of "S-H5" occurs when Billy leans out the window of a train and sees Dresden
( actually Prague, where the location scenes were filmed) for the first time. The soundtrack plays a Bach concerto in the background and somebody on the prisoner-of-war troop train says ( if my memory isn't too faulty here) something like: "Jesus! It's the Land of Oz!"


--Z

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Post by stilltrucking » September 23rd, 2005, 8:14 pm

SH5 also has an inside tiltle page,
Slaughter House Five
The Children's Crusade
A Duty Dance With Death

I like the tralfamadorian description how humans see the world

Human vision is something so narrow and restricted...to
convey to themselves what it must be like they have to
imagine a creature with a metal sphere around his head who
looks down a long, thin pipe seeing only a tiny speck at
the end. He cannot turn his head around and he is strapped
to a flatcar on rails which goes in one direction. The is looking at the Rocky Mountains through that pipe. What they can see of it is what we see of time
(Vonnegut).

The prayer
lord give the the courage to change the things that i can
The serenity to accept what i can not change
And the wisdom to know the difference


According to the tralfamadorians the things we can not change are the past, present, and future.

I have read that book too many times.


Tralfamadorianism is the philosophy held by Billy’s alien friends, which teaches that each moment in time is pre-structured with no purpose, but is totally random. But, despite the randomness of the moment, it cannot be changed because it simply exists the way it is. On the other hand, Christianity teaches that God is in sovereign control, and He brings each action to pass and has planned out all of time. While these may not look so different, Vonnegut makes it clear that he does not agree with Christianity. By giving the Tralfamadorians a position of superiority over humans, Vonnegut uses them to criticize society. Billy relates once that “On Tralfamadore, there isn’t much interest in Jesus Christ” (Vonnegut Slaughterhouse 210). Rather, the Tralfamadorians consider Darwin the most innovative and influential human. To further tarnish the image of Christianity, Pilgrim reads a sci-fi novel in which there is a parody of the Gospel of Christ. Instead of Jesus being the Son of God, He is a bum, a “nobody.” Once He is crucified, God’s voice booms down from heaven and says “I am adopting this bum, this nobody as My Son,” therefore everyone is required to treat Jesus and all other bums with kindness and respect (Novels 276).
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Re: What's the point?

Post by short timer » March 31st, 2011, 12:10 pm

During my last two minutes of life, my mind
will ask me one more time.. "Hey dude, did
you get the point." In all my deathly honesty,
I'll respond, "duh, nope."
I have changed my mind mike.

These days I find that a comforting thought

hope you are well I miss your voice around
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Re: What's the point?

Post by Steve Plonk » April 5th, 2011, 5:59 pm

Fellow "arrows", Welcome to the "Pointless Forest"...Nothing IS as it seems,
and the shell game keeps hiding the pea...Politics and war may resemble the
above...Now, may we see the forest even though there are many trees?
Riddle me that, folks... Even so, I keep reading the funny papers...Here lately, CNN and Fox News have been especially dense and slanted. :roll: :lol:

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Re: What's the point?

Post by Artguy » April 6th, 2011, 9:40 am

" You don't gotta have a point to have a point...Dig???"

Harry Niilson, The Point

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Re: What's the point?

Post by mnaz » April 6th, 2011, 1:36 pm

the point is

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Post by Doreen Peri » April 6th, 2011, 2:52 pm

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