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Sinners!!!
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 10:46 am
by Lightning Rod
according to Dante and Pope Gregory the Great
there are seven deadly or cardinal sins
lust
gluttony
greed (or love of money)
sloth
wrath (anger)
envy (jealousy)
and
pride
which ones are you guilty of?
from where will your damnation originate?
I pick the sin of pride
but sloth is a close second
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 10:54 am
by Doreen Peri
That's pretty good that you can analyze yourself so accurately. (I don't see that you voted yet, tho.... go ahead... don't be scared... this is a democracy!.... vote!)
I choose wrath.
Wish I could figure out how to control my anger. The only thing I know how to do to control it is to remove myself from the circumstances that cause it.
But sooner or later another circumstance arises and I get angry again.
Oh well. Maybe anger management classes should be put on my calendar.
Most of all, I get angry at myself for getting angry. I hate getting angry. It's very hard on me.
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 11:01 am
by Lightning Rod
of course pride is the reddest of the cardinal sins
the one Satan perished behind
doreen, I think you nailed yourself pretty accurately too
though envy might be a close second
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 11:17 am
by Doreen Peri
Nope.
I never get envious of anyone. Truly.
Never have in my life.
What's there to envy? Nothing.
I donno where you got that idea.
Pretty interesting that you can live with someone for almost 5 years and come to such an inaccurate judgement.
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 11:53 am
by stilltrucking
I love moot questions.
They make me feel like a theologian. Dante put a little finer point on it than that LR. Maybe you think I quibble, but considering what is at stake I think we should not be too hasty.
I noticed that totenputz put that guy Choo who killed all those people at virginia tech he put him in the malabolgia which I thought was odd.
Dante reserved the eight circle for hypocrites and flatterers not murderers. The violent only made it to circle seven a much more pleasant place than the Malabolgia.
I thought you said somewhere that you are perezoso. So I mention this to you. Could it be that he made a mistake. Not bloody likely is it?
Since my immortal soul is at stake I would like to take a little more time to vote on this one.
Be back after I sleep on it.
VESTIBULEàNeutrals and Opportunists, indecisive, no real beliefs, those who don’t choose sides
CIRCLE #1--LIMBOàVirtuous Pagans and Unbaptized Babies
CIRCLE #2àCarnal and Lustful
CIRCLE #3àGluttons
CIRCLE #4àHoarders and Wasters
CIRCLE #5àWrathful and Sullen or Slothful
CIRCLE #6àHeretics
CIRCLE #7.1àViolence Against Neighbors
CIRCLE #7.2àViolence Against Oneself (Forest of the Suicides)
CIRCLE #7.3.1àViolence Against God
CIRCLE #7.3.2àViolence Against Nature (Homosexuals)
CIRCLE #7.3.3àViolence Against Art (Users)
MALABOLGIA
CIRCLE #8.1àPimps, Panderers, and Seducers
CIRCLE #8.2àFlatterers
CIRCLE #8.3àSimonists (Users if the Church)
CIRCLE #8.4àFortunetellers and Soothsayers
CIRCLE #8.5àGrafters
CIRCLE #8.6àHypocrites
CIRCLE #8.7àThieves
CIRCLE #8.8àEvil Counselors and Deceivers
CIRCLE #8.9àSowers of Discord/Scandal/Schism
CIRCLE #8.10àFalsifiers
CIRCLE #9.1--CAINAàTreacherous to Kindred
CIRCLE #9.2--ANTENORAàTreacherous to Country or Political Party
CIRCLE #9.3--TOLOMEAàTreacherous to Guests
CIRCLE #9.4--JUDECCAàTreacherous to Lords or Superiors
LOWEST LEVEL OF HELLàThe worst of those who betrayed their benefactors
~Satan, Judas Iscariot, Brutus, and Cassius
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 11:58 am
by Doreen Peri
I thought about this and should amend my statement some.
I DO get envious sometimes of people who have more time to do what they want to do than I do and also more financial freedom than I do. I have worked hard all my life and still pretty much live hand-to-mouth and have little time and no accessable finances to travel and/or pursue many of my dreams.
So, I do experience envy occasionally but it's really not that often. But I have never envied anyone for their talents or their skills or their looks or any personal traits they have.
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 11:59 am
by Doreen Peri
Truckin' - i can't read that! hmmm... I don't understand it... there seems to be some code all mixed up in the text.
Oh and.... what's moot about this question? I don't understand that either.
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:06 pm
by stilltrucking
Looks ok on windows xp
are you using a Mac?
Beats me doreen it looks ok on my monitor
it lists the circle # and the sin
no idea waht is going on.
too bad I am unable to post to perezoso's thread,
I have been really curious about that spring spree post he made to creative.
Why would he put a murderer in with the hypocrites I wonder.
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:13 pm
by Doreen Peri
You don't see this strange character in all the lines?
à
?
what is à?
For instance it says
LIMBOà
???
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:14 pm
by stilltrucking
the moot question?
If someone does not believe in hell
it seems moot to reply to this thread.
Do you believe in hell"?
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:20 pm
by stilltrucking
on mine it says
CIRCLE #1--LIMBOàVirtuous Pagans and Unbaptized Babies
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:20 pm
by Doreen Peri
Oh I see. No, I don't believe in hell in the biblical sense. Hell on earth, I believe in. I see it every day. Hell as a place people go to after they die? No, I don't believe in that.
But the 7-deadly-sins are just a myth type of thing.... a way of saying that these human faults can cause downfalls in peoples lives, so that's how I was looking at it.
But now I get your point. Thanks for explaining.
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:21 pm
by Doreen Peri
stilltrucking wrote:on mine it says
CIRCLE #1--LIMBOàVirtuous Pagans and Unbaptized Babies
Yes... don't you see that funny character that looks like "a" small a with an accent mark on it in between LIMBO and Virtuous?
Do you see this?
à
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:24 pm
by stilltrucking
Hell on earth
I believe in that
So did Kerouac I think
I got so many sins I would not know how to vote
I can live with damnation
But most of all it is vanity that ruined my life.
Fortunately my life is not over yet
The things we do for love.
Posted: June 15th, 2007, 12:36 pm
by stilltrucking
here is a link to the text and image
I should have included it with he original post
Circles of Hell
this is the image source and home page of
Where in hell do you belong