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Ted Nugent

Posted: August 13th, 2007, 7:58 pm
by stilltrucking
It is not fair to judge an artist by his personality. It is only rock and roll. I don't know why he bothers me. Maybe cause he is so proud of his constable's badge. Maybe it is his deputy sherrif auxilary badge he carries.
Nugent lives near President George W. Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, and said he caught Bush's attention at his private inauguration party in 2000. "When he noticed me, he was surrounded by these huge bankrollers from his campaign. He literally swept past all of them and said, 'Laura! Look who's here! It's Ted!' Then he hugged me and took me by the shoulders. He said, 'Just keep doing what you're doing. Don't think that we don't know what you're up to out here. Stay on course.'"[7]

Nugent thinks Bush should take more forceful action on Iraq: "Our failure has been not to Nagasaki them".[7]


Performance at Texas Governor's inaugural
Texas governor Rick Perry, who is friends with Nugent, invited him to perform at a black-tie gala hours after Perry's second inauguration ceremony. Using machine guns as props, Nugent appeared onstage as the final act of the inaugural ball wearing a cutoff T-shirt emblazoned with the Confederate flag and shouting offensive remarks about non-English speakers, according to press reports.[16] The NAACP condemned Nugent's flying of the Confederate flag as a symbol of "the enslavement of African-Americans and more recently the symbol of hate groups and terrorists."[16] Nugent himself has vociferously denied the accusations of racism in the event, describing said accusations as "vicious lies and hateful allegations".[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent
The above from wikipedia so I don't know how much is true. But I saw him on Evan Smith's Texas Monthy Talks show and it seems right on. I don't know why he dude makes me so nervous. Maybe it is that little Maynard G Krebs Goatee he has...

I have avoided listening to his music for years ever since I saw him on Letterman bragging about how he drives. He made a point of telling Evan Smith what a good citizen/driver he is these days.

Evan Smith is the coolest Texan I know these days
http://www.klru.org/texasmonthlytalks/a ... /intro.asp

Posted: August 15th, 2007, 9:31 am
by stilltrucking
You limey bastards out there will get a kick out this interview.
The more you see of Nugent, the more the question presents itself: how did he get to be like this?
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... Num=145633

Posted: August 15th, 2007, 10:23 am
by singlemalt
Nugent has always been a redneck piece of shit. Yeah, I think you can judge an artist by his personality.

Posted: August 15th, 2007, 11:03 am
by stilltrucking
I suppose I am looking at him from the high seat
just something he said on a late night talk show about how he drives.
You know just trucker's paranoia. But I decided that night I was not interested in hearing his music.
But if I had heard his music before i knew about his what a cracker head he was, I might still be a fan of his today. His politics be damned.
Kind of the way I feel about musicians who have helped me make it through the night. The way I feel about Lowell George. No matter what his politics were. Time loves a hero.
And Himmler's Ring is such a purdy song


Interesting interview, this bit from there.
"You seem to have got into quite a bit of trouble for someone so consistently sober." "My arrest record," Nugent replies, "is practically Mother Teresa-like." [The Blessed Mother of Calcutta, by this analogy, has been booked for reckless driving, carrying a concealed weapon, and nudity in a public place.]

Posted: August 15th, 2007, 10:44 pm
by Lightning Rod
as a musician, I was insulted by Nugent's music before I was insulted by his politics and cultural statements. He represents everything I hate. Loud, obnoxious music, killing defenseless animals and feeling macho about it and supporting war and Gdubya. What a swell guy. And now he's got a badge? Perfect.

Posted: August 16th, 2007, 1:59 pm
by stilltrucking
:idea:



I appreciate the comeback on this one Lr
I am struggling with it
It goes back to Nietzsche Contra Wagner

I can't hardly talk about music clay but I am into it up to my eyeballs

A friend of mine a musician said about me "I don't know what he hears, but he sure listens" he said this as I was tapping my feet and clapping my hands to some different drummer (eye roll)

Posted: August 16th, 2007, 4:45 pm
by stilltrucking
I had I lot more I wanted to say. Or rather a lot more I wanted to ask.

Surely Ted Nugent must have some redeeming qualities as a musician. I just don't know what they are. I have so far avoided listening to him.
He lived with the MC5 and said he was moved by their music.

I don't mean to get off topic
but what the hell it is my thread

and maybe it not off topic

what about Sid Viscious was he a great rock and roller?
was he anymore of a peckerhead or cracker head than ted nugent is
Oh no wait ted nugent don't do drugs
so I suppose i wont score no points with that

what about lowell george
no he did drugs too
maybe what killed him
I met him he played in a little health food restaurant run by some Sufi's in Berwyn Park MD near the U of MD campus..
I can't tell you how many knights he pulled me through the last four or five hundred miles from Salinas CA to NYCNY. rolled righ through the night.

I never knew anything about his politics
loved his music
but I he was a rock and roll hero of mine
then one day I stumbled across him singing Himmler's Ring. A beautiful song, or as your pal and mine eugene would say "purdy" song no shit clay if you did not pay too much attention to the pictures of himmler and you tuned out images to the holocaust when the images of the ring flashed across the screen, well if you bracket the ring {} phenomenologicaly speaking, strip away all the evil, just look at it for the first time it was a pretty ring.

but after everything I had done to keep my feelings for the music alive it was what flashed across the you tube screen as the song ended

a couple of websites
one of them was goyfiredotcom
I checked it out and the logic was very similar to how ted nugents keen intellect seems to function. The guy on goyfire had proved to himself why the holocaust was a perfidious jewis lie to enslave the world. Now that he believed it he was trying to convice his readers.

And what you might ask was his proof
well he had many facts
the one that tickled my funny bone was about the hair cuts.

He said that is rediculous, if they were going to gas these people in 15 minutes why would they waste all that time and energy giving them haircuts?

The guy suffered from a terrible lack of imagination. I suppose he never thought about hair being just another commodity to be harvested, like gold teeth, eye glasses, skin, body fat.

oh well

I still like lowell george not his fault what some cracker head did with his music. It was a pretty song, I don't think he wrote it. And there was not one anti semitic line in it. just a purdy little song about a pretty silver ring.

the video is gone from youtube


well just to wrap this up this bit is from N vs W

whyNietzsche broke it off with his highway hero
By the summer of 1876, during the time of the first Festspiele, I said farewell to Wagner in my heart. I suffer no ambiguity; and since Wagner had moved to Germany, he had condescended step by step to everything I despise—even to anti-Semitism . . . It was indeed high time to say farewell: soon after, I received the proof. Richard Wagner, apparently most triumphant, but in truth a decaying and despairing decadent, suddenly sank down, helpless and broken, before the Christian cross . . .
http://taimur.sarangi.info/text/n00.htm

Posted: August 16th, 2007, 5:09 pm
by stilltrucking
one more thing eye roll

the I think was one of the last thinks N wrote before he became catatonic.

some say from syphilis,
some say no
Nietzsche's Visionary Values
— Genius or Dementia?
by Richard Schain
http://www.philosophos.com/philosophy_article_31.html
Some people seem to find their atheism in nietzsche,
I found my faith again.

Posted: August 16th, 2007, 5:24 pm
by Arcadia
first time I read the word festspiele or something like that was in Borges´s "Tema del traidor y del héroe". It seems the festspieles still go on. I just saw a 2008´s programmation that included something about Luther King and Mascagni.

Posted: August 16th, 2007, 5:48 pm
by stilltrucking
del traidor y del héroe
From babel fish:

"Subject of the traitor and the hero"

on the subjecto of the traitor and the hero
I have not read it but its title reminds me of this song by
Lowell George
Times Love A Hero
Well they say time loves a hero
but only time will tell
If he's real, he's a legend from heaven
If he ain't he was sent here from hell

Hear me well
Seein' ain't always believin'
Just make sure it's the truth that you're seein'
Eyes sometimes lie, eyes sometimes lie
They can be real deceivin'

I got an Uncle in Puerto Rico
Spends his days in the sun
his nights in the casinos
He left the States many years ago
Took a fishin' boat to Puerto Rico
Now my aunt, she is sad and lonely
She'll never know that she drove him away
As a coward I admire his courageous ways

Well they say time loves a hero
but only time will tell
If he's real, he's a legend from heaven
If he ain't he was sent here from hell

Some say my uncle, that he's a zero
His life is as a shell, he left it back at Stateside
I'd say he's doin' pretty well, without his shell
Bumming 'round the beaches of Puerto Rico

The beauty of the sunrise and sunset
To his friends he wish he could tell
They're at home still runnin' for bells
Better San Juan than that blue collar hell

Well they say time loves a hero
but only time will tell
If he's real, he's a legend from heaven
If he ain't he was sent here from hell

Posted: August 17th, 2007, 4:15 pm
by Totenkopf
Yeah Nugent's pretty obnoxious. Nearly as obnoxious as, say, an Obama rally.

Posted: August 17th, 2007, 7:06 pm
by stilltrucking
Good point TK

It is cuts to the chase for me

Hero worship

I was born to follow

I want to believe

In the great leader

I wonder if Ted has any plans to run himself?

"Pass the biscuits, Pappy,"

Posted: August 23rd, 2007, 5:44 pm
by e_dog
Michael Moore for Prez. wit Cindy Shee-han as the VPer. now, hows that fo' a tickut?

Posted: August 30th, 2007, 9:57 pm
by Scootertrash
Nugent is so full of shit he could cause a panic in the global fertilizer industry.

Posted: March 30th, 2008, 7:14 pm
by bohonato
Ted Nugent to speak at Miller Auditorium

March 24, 2008

KALAMAZOO--Rock musician and outspoken political conservative Ted Nugent will give a free, public talk at 7 p.m. Monday, March 31, in Miller Auditorium at Western Michigan University.

Nugent's speech is titled "God, Guns and Rock n Roll," which is also the title of his best-selling book from 2000. A question and answer session will follow the presentation.

Also known as "The Nuge" and "The Motor City Madman," Nugent is a hard rock guitarist and vocalist, who originally gained fame as the lead guitarist of the Amboy Dukes. He is noted for his conservative political views and his pro-hunting and pro-gun positions. Originally from Detroit, Nugent has been rumored as a possible Republican candidate for Michigan state office, including governor, but he has never formally declared or filed for election. He resides in Crawford, Texas, not far from the home President George W. Bush.

"We are excited and honored to host Ted Nugent," says Megan Buwalda, chair of the WMU College Republicans, sponsors of the event. "Gun rights have been a very hot topic on campus recently, and we feel that Ted Nugent will contribute positively to the discourse in our community."

Visit www.rso.wmich.edu/gop for more information about Ted Nugent's presentation at Miller Auditorium and the WMU College Republicans.
From WMU news.

I can't even handle this.