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smelt the fingers
ass crack same in difference

point is

love the one your with

Well, ass crack aside...

you can only love who you love
loving the one you're with?
a great concept
and kudos to you if you can pull it off
but I reiterate
you can only love who you love

can you build a bridge with toe jam and stinky fingers?
I think not! You must love the toe jam and stinky fingers.

However, if tis merely a matter of the grass might be greener on the other side and always looks greener and sunnier on the other side and you have worn a path back and forth to that greener side? Well then, that's different. But...

You can only love who you love. Forced love is not a happy thing.

Eighteenth-century freedom
nineteenth-century industry
twentieth-century technology
and post-enlightenment confusion of flirty transcendence
of HAPPINESS
for love—
that is the grounds for a thesis:
love has fucked this whole world up.
Consistent happiness ain't happenin'
and forced love is farced love.
Raise the bar on fidelity
on faithfulness
on commitment.
Define love as HAPPINESS
and chain me next to a fool or a mirror
and ask me to love the one I'm with
and I'll waste and die
before I try
but define love as stand-by-forever
and chain me up again—
I might hate the fool-face in the mirror
but I won't get away from it
and by a different definition,
I'll have loved it.
Consistent happiness ain't happenin'
and forced love is farced love—but—
persistent presence is possible
and promised love holds a lovely promise
I can stand by anyone
happy
miserable
in love.

you can pick your friends
you pick your nose
but you can't pick your friend's nose

you can pick flowers too,

in the end, what is it all for?

And in the end.......

the love we take
is equal to the love, we make.....

Who said that?
H

Peevette wrote:in the end, what is it all for?

on the one hand, my skeptic's stand on Fate seems to tell me, "The end is predetermined."
on the other hand, my optimist-idealist's stand on Hope seems to tell me, "The end is providentially secured in all its possibilities."
on either hand, my critic-cynic's stand on Life & Love seems to tell me, "The end is not the issue, in the here-and-now, what is it all for?"

nice to cybermeet you, peevette! welcome and i look forward to your additions!

hester_prynne wrote:And in the end.......

the love we take
is equal to the love, we make.....

Who said that?
H

i have no clue who said that, but i love it--that's the here-and-now for me, that's the response for which i'm able to be responsible.

and YABYUM...so i just learned what yabyum is. interesting. anyhow, i wanted to say you get me to think more with fewer words than.... i've never been able to get out of my head what i want to say, so i use a lot of words and i envy/repsect the skill of concise folks. thanks for helping me think.

The Beatles.

The future is the present expectation.
The past is the present memory.
There's really only the present.

If you can't be with the one you love
Love the one you're with.

Sure beats being alone.

hester_prynne wrote:And in the end.......

the love we take
is equal to the love, we make.....

Who said that?
H

The Beatles...

Oh yeah, all right
Are you going to be in my dreams
Tonight?

And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make.

On the Abby Road album.....

on either hand, my critic-cynic's stand on Life & Love seems to tell me, "The end is not the issue, in the here-and-now, what is it all for?"

I think if I had to choose, I would say, the here-and-now is what is important. What we do in the present, will effect the outcome of our future.............

nice to cybermeet you, peevette! welcome and i look forward to your additions!

Nice to cybermeet you, as well!! Thank you for the lovely welcome! I look forward to getting to know you better.

You know, I agree with you about living in the here and now, but I find that there is a very distracting peripheral that I can't put words around, in the reality of the here and now, for me anyway.
How does one just live in the here and now?
Maybe i'm cynical, but for me the definition of freedom is earning enough so that you can have a bit of sanctuary in your obliged life....

Oh to live in the sanctuary of an infinitely secure here and now.
H

but for me the definition of freedom is earning enough so that you can have a bit of sanctuary in your obliged life....

sanctuary for me is not monitary, it comes from within......

It costs me nothing to take a walk in the woods, listen to the sounds of nature around me, smell the life around me, and see the beauty that nature provides............

for me, THAT is sanctuary.

Well for me too!
I don't mean to suggest that I think sanctuary has anything to do with money! I do think that in order to have sanctuary, you have to provide for your basic needs, and that anymore, that can take a toll on sanctuary time.

By the way, welcome to the studio!
H

I agree with the need/desire/yearning for a base practical security to allow the sanctuary to be real. I don't have a child and I have luckily a family to bum off of, but I'm still racheting up my bills, insurance costs, car payments, education debts...and I have no home to go to and no source of income. I have prospects...but prospects aren't the same as sanctuary.

Sanctuary is a big deal in my world...living in the tradition of the church and looking at a hopeful set of decades in the pulpit. And I know there's an especially uphill battle within that tradition of all-powerful Christendom to say that the here-and-now is nothing compared to the sweet-by-and-by. That's all the more reason I feel complelled to push for the here-and-now.

So many people around me try to turn today into a workshop on how to get off easy tomorrow. That ignores the divine as far as I can tell. If I can trust the divine enough that tomorrow is a graciously assured reality (for not just me, but for everyone), then I can really look at today in terms of today.

How do we make sure that life is secure enough for everyone to experience the sanctuary? Without requiring prerequisites from people, how do we simply say: yo Capitalist who's struggling to make ends meet within a system you believe in but that isn't working for you--believe what you believe, but how can we make sure you've got a home and food?

That's why the here-and-now matters to me. Campaign promises make good soundbites, but what about today?

Remember when Freedom from Fear was an ideal we as people aspired to achieve?

Maybe this makes no sense....

YABYUM wrote:smelt the fingers
ass crack same in difference

point is

love the one your with

"love the one your with"

that´s always a good idea!!!
interesting thread!!