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What makes it Work? Is there any point in trying?
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 11:26 am
by Lightning Rod
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How hard do you try?
Is effort a matter of grunts or duration?
What makes you want to work?
Who is your boss? (or for whom do you work?)
Is there any point in trying?
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 12:16 pm
by Doreen Peri
Oh man, thank you soooo much for posting that video! I just love Janis! That Dick Cavett show was way special and she was on it like 3x, i think. Who's that sitting next to Dick? God he looks familiar. Now I have to do a search on youtube to find the whole interview. I really think it was 3x he had her on there and interviewed her and all of them are classics, both the performances and the interviews.
I felt like she was my friend, truly. I cried for a couple days when she died. I met her and sipped on her bottle of southern comfort standing under a tree stage right at Merriweather Post Pavilion. But it wasn't just that brief meeting at 16 years old (it was my birthday) that made me feel like she was my sister. It was everything about her! She was like me. She wasn't exactly beautiful. She was wide open and felt every note she sang. I felt sexy like she was sexy. Every song of hers I owned in my heart. I dressed like her. I still dress like her when I have the money to buy the clothes and I have somewhere nice to go. I loved that she wore little to no make up. She was just REAL... and honest and so damn special. God I miss Janis. I will play her tonight and sing with her. I love to sing with her.
Thanks again!
Well, enough of a break. I gotta get back to work.
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 12:25 pm
by Lightning Rod
there you go with the 'man' thing again
I was thinking about you when I posted this
because you are so trying

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 12:31 pm
by Doreen Peri
I know you were. It's a bait post. You want me to talk about work and my work ethic and have an argument with you in public since we have discussed and argued about "work" ad infinitum in private but I ain't bitin babe.
I decided to use "man" again in this post in honor of Janis. She used "man" all the time.
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 12:49 pm
by Lightning Rod
doreen peri wrote:I know you were. It's a bait post. You want me to talk about work and my work ethic and have an argument with you in public since we have discussed and argued about "work" ad infinitum in private but I ain't bitin babe.
I decided to use "man" again in this post in honor of Janis. She used "man" all the time.
Man,
That's what I was always told as a child; You either fish or cut bait.
Don't talk to me about the validity of bait. You are in the ad business.
But this isn't a 'bait' post.
I really want to know what people think about the subject of effort or work.
I know we have discussed this and we have different ideas on the subject, but I wanted to know what others thought.
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 12:49 pm
by gypsyjoker
Yes doreen, just like I said to whimsical deb when she accused me to taunting her and stalking her, I tried to warn her "it's a green weenie deb, don't bite for it.
The problem is Clay you are not being literal enough,
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNe ... nergy.html
I just spent forty minutes on hold with attt choking my chicken and getting my dsl upgraded so my baby sister can work here when after she has her surgery.
Is that work enough
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 12:57 pm
by Lightning Rod
more about work
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Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:01 pm
by Doreen Peri
Good. I hope you find out what you what you want to find out from others.
I have too much work to do to participate.
Mortgage is due, my daughter and cat are hungry. I'm sick and meds, vitamins & herbs aren't cheap. I need the money. Plus other people's livelihood's depend on my work. So I better get back to it.
Have fun!
(livelihood is a good word, btw. Without a livelihood, you starve unless you are dependent upon charity, something which I refuse)
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:06 pm
by gypsyjoker
Doreen she accused me of baiting her too.
does that explain my sad remark on the banner feed back thread.
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:07 pm
by Arcadia
trying what?
hey, and it´s friday!!!!!!!

Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:20 pm
by gypsyjoker
Friday
Friday nigh fights
black and white tv
Uncle Abe lived for those friday night fights
and I loved watching with my hero uncle
drove his truck through the jungles overseas in world war two
trapped in the burning truck when a mortor shell hit
I watched for the cartoon shaving adds
Happy to be hanging out with my role model
And I could not wait to start shaving.
I grew up with the Brown Bomber and Rock Marciano
Man he loved those fights Clay
Watched them religiously
He wished he had stayed on his tropical paradise where his philapina sweet heart called him "bambu kness"
I was thinking about posting this video about work
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checking out the dnacers on this vid
it is true white men can' dance
why is the audience all white and uptight?
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:44 pm
by gypsyjoker
N O Brown writing about intellectual work for the relief of man's estate, his protestant work ethic required it.
Nothing worse than a jew with a protestant work ethic I suppose.
Problem with me about people who go on about work ethics is they don't allow for the universal. They get wrapped up in their own culture.
We got to earn our bread by the sweet of browls a mans curse
and women must bear the birth
Margaret mead maybe I forget talks about a tropical island where 16 hours of "work" a week provides for the necessities of life. The rest of the time they keep them selves occupied by carving statues, totem poles, making jewelery, decorating their bodies, dancing, and other cultural activities. Back ward people did not even know they were naked until the white men brought them salvation.
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:50 pm
by gypsyjoker
I don't know where you are coming from with this thread clay
maybe you are trying to bait doreen
We all got to chop wood and cary water
but of couse real men don't do women's work right?
take out the garbage
mow the lawn
Am I baiting you?
Hey you had four wives
I never been married what do I know.
Thank Greggory it is Friday
we can all chill
if I could only remember what year this is.
Posted: May 9th, 2008, 1:52 pm
by gypsyjoker
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Posted: May 9th, 2008, 2:18 pm
by gypsyjoker
Let me just back up to your original post
Go back to the text as TK migh say
How hard do you try?
Is effort a matter of grunts or duration?
What makes you want to work?
Who is your boss? (or for whom do you work?)
Is there any point in trying?
I do it by the book clay
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
I work for Elliot Rosewater at The Rosewater Foundation.
I call this work, I don't know what makes me do it, instinct I guess.
Is there any point in asking if their is a point in trying?
Not trying just seems boring to me.
I hope I answered your questions
sincerely
jt