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Post by Steve Plonk » January 16th, 2010, 8:27 pm

We not waiti
To send big gift to Haiti,
Earthquake bump that mess around
Send many buildings and people tumbling down...
So dig deep in yo pockets dude
Better to give, ease up to grieve,
Reach out with compassion, not to appear rude...

Rhyme be blunt,
My mind is draining in a shunt,
The atmosphere is saturated with 'crete,
There are big holes where they use to walk in the street,
I remember my first earthquake in L. A.
It was 1953 and I's headed out and away...


So say a prayer for all effected,
Hope that food and water won't be misdirected,
That medical help is on its way,
So folks will live another day...

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Post by still.trucking » January 20th, 2010, 10:51 am

We ain't hatey
I been thinking about Doctors Without Borders. I have always admired that outfit.

Heard that the Americans who are running the airport refused to let their plane land. I guess they did not need a portable hospital :?
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Post by stilltrucking » January 22nd, 2010, 9:38 am

Wednesday, Doctors Without Borders (MSF) expressed regret that a plane carrying 12 tons of vital medical equipment has been prevented from landing on three occasions in Port-au-Prince since Sunday evening.
Huffington Post

In Haiti, No One In Charge

Some really questionable decisions were made. Doctors Without Borders which had established clinics in Haiti years before the quake, dispatched a portable, inflatable hospital surgery unit carried in two planes. One was allowed to land in Haiti, the other was forced to land in the Dominican Republic resulting in two lost days before it was made operational.

On Thursday night, Belgian relief chief coordinator Geert Gijs ordered a surgical team evacuated from a makeshift hospital leaving just operated victims abandoned because of security reasons.

For all the valid reasons we heard during the chaos on why water, food and medical supplies were not delivered to the horror-stricken, injured, thirsty and hungry victims, one country excelled.

That, of course, was Israel. Hours after landing, they established a fully equipped field hospital and performed dozens of surgeries. A second team was dispatched Monday night and was operational by midday today.

The IsraAID/FIRST medical teams consisting of 12 medical personnel treated some 200 people, performed 25 surgeries and delivered.three babies in its first day.

The U.S., in particular FEMA, should use Israel as a model. It is a lean, mean, surgical task force with years of practical experience.

The U.S., by comparison, is a bumbling, fumbling giant funneling a wealth of resources too often unable or incapable of being logistically delivered in a timely fashion. It occurred in New Orleans after the Katrina hurricane and we see the same logistical blockage in Haiti.

It is not a case of “helluva job Brownie.” It is a case of lack of leadership on the ground. Where is the general or admiral to kick butt and take names and get the job done.

Isabelle Jeanson, a Doctors Without Borders (MSF) Emergency Communications Officer, wrote in an email from Haiti on Sunday: “MSF is still concerned that delivery of vital supplies is being delayed.”

“Patients who were not critical only three days ago are now in critical phases. This means that people will die from preventable infections. It’s horrible. It’s really so terrible that people are begging for help and we can’t help them all to save their lives!”

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper called it “stupid deaths.”

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Post by Steve Plonk » January 22nd, 2010, 6:16 pm

Today, there is supposed to be a new temporary "Control Tower"
installed at the main airport in Port -0- Prince (sic). So, hopefully,
planes will be able to land easier. There was a backup at the airport so it was hard to coordinate without a working control tower. They were operating out of a tent! These things happen, also there were aftershocks which put a wrench into the ability for planes to land. One needs a bit of luck to go with it...

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Post by still.trucking » January 23rd, 2010, 7:45 am

That is good news Steve Plonk

art guy asked
"what to do"
all I can think of is that old song about "brother can you spare a dime"
It seems like the Israeli's brought everything needed on one plane. Maybe those doctors without borders need to take a lesson.

I am going throw money at the problem.
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Post by hester_prynne » January 23rd, 2010, 6:03 pm

"Where's our help Goddamn it!!!!!! WHY ISN'T AMERICA HERE HELPING US RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Kinda interesting, the way that help is being asked for/demanded.
As if an entitlement.
Haiti is not New Orleans.
This bothers me!
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Post by hester_prynne » January 23rd, 2010, 6:07 pm

We could have created paying jobs for people to go and help out in Haiti. For people to rebuild there in the future. American people need JOBS!!!!!!!!!
Oh, wait a minute...we can't take that job away from some corporate company now can we? How dare you give Americans jobs in Haiti and interfere with our corporate plans to rebuild there, and thus own the country? Do you realize it cost us billions to bomb the ocean and create the earthquake there so we could take over? HUSH America! This is our deal! Go read about John Edwards love child ok?
Am I out of my mind?????????
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Post by stilltrucking » January 23rd, 2010, 8:13 pm

I think they are entitled to help just for being human. But Rush Limbaugh is probably right, fuck um.

Estimates running to 200,000 people killed.
I wonder what Gertrude Stein would say.

Probably not much cause she is dead too.



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If nobody had to die how would there be room for any of us who now live to have lived. We never could have been if all the others had not died. There would have been no room.

In every country there is some way in which it is not right to be dead, that is to die. And why. Each one knows why.

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Post by Steve Plonk » January 23rd, 2010, 10:22 pm

"He whose not busy being born is busy dying..." Bob Dylan

Time to crank up the compassion machine, America, and roll
up your sleeves, pick up thy bed and walk. Oh, and let's help
Haiti out, too. Hey, Haiti was the New Orleans BEFORE New Orleans.
No time for cynics and ostriches sticking heads in the sand...

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Post by stilltrucking » January 23rd, 2010, 10:50 pm

Not now
no time for that
I am busy dying.


I guess I am cynical.
I don't think I will be sending Bush and Clinton any money.
I am going to donate some money but not there.


What is interesting to me is the way the story is being reported. The way any big breaking story is reported.


Compassion do we need to turn that up or down
I thought it is 24/7

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Post by hester_prynne » January 24th, 2010, 12:37 am

I pledge my sleeves to be continually rolled up.
However, there will be emotional breaking points at times.

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Post by stilltrucking » January 24th, 2010, 9:19 am

compassion fatigue
It can get to anyone
But Rush Limbaugh has a bad case of Samaritrophia.
Samaritrophia, "hysterical indifference to the troubles of those less fortunate than oneself." God Bless You Mr Rosewater

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Post by hester_prynne » January 24th, 2010, 5:07 pm

I loved that book. I must reread it, for I more remember how I loved it rather than what it was about really.....
Thanks for understanding me Still.
I get upset when so many bad things seem
to be happening under our loyal, patient and
enduring trust....
My mutual committment to government appears to be crumbling.
It hurts.
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