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"You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 3rd, 2012, 6:12 pm
by stilltrucking
Camus’s repudiation of violent revolution as bourgeois, privileged, unrealistic, ant historical, and anti-human being. Camus’ refusal to grace revolutionary murders with the word “justice”
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=ps ... 80&bih=551

Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 5th, 2012, 8:42 am
by Arcadia
good morning s-t! :D I want to be totally wake up in an hour...! :lol: :wink:

http://thinkafricapress.com/algeria/50- ... lebrations

Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 5th, 2012, 4:52 pm
by stilltrucking
Camus a hero of mine since my teen age years, Fangio also. Courage, what I admired most about both men, I wished for courage like theirs.


Thank you for the link, I am surprised that the USA did not get involved in the war there. I guess we were too busy in French Indochina.

Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 6th, 2012, 9:40 am
by Arcadia
more about coraje... (an e-mail I recived today), enjoy! :)

http://www.tricycle.com/-practice/risin ... m?page=0,0

Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 6th, 2012, 1:41 pm
by stilltrucking
We all have the potential to be killers; realizing that is the key. Years ago, some academics and I did a study of religious violence. We found that the people who are the most violent are those who are incapable of embracing their own potential for evil.
!!!

That is the united states in a nut shell. We got to see ourselves as the good guys.
Surgical violence—killing the one to save the many—is part of the bodhisattva ethic. The problem with American-style warfare since World War II is that we've relied on carpet bombing—civilian bombing. Civilian bombing is a kind of terrorism in itself, and there's nothing surgical about it. It's just blanket annihilative violence. And that produces this terrible blowback of terrorism and people filled with revenge and hatred. It incites more violence, whereas surgical violence had better be surgical—aiming to heal.
The united states must be evolving towards a bodhisattva ethic because we are using drones these days to target our enemies. Only kill a few people here and there.
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Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 6th, 2012, 7:44 pm
by Arcadia
The united states must be evolving towards a bodhisattva ethic because we are using drones these days to target our enemies. Only kill a few people here and there.

yeah, how Thurman explained the idea that sometimes to kill one in orden to save many is necessary sometimes doesn´t sound very politically correct somehow ... but it seems he is a Columbia university professor, we can´t expect for miracles, I guess...! :roll:

Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 7th, 2012, 11:56 am
by stilltrucking


I am going to stand on my head and see if things look any better.

I was thinking about how much Gandhi accomolished, how much Martin Luther King Jr did for America with nonviolence
but
“It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.”

http://sourcesofinsight.com/gandhi-quotes/

Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 12:13 pm
by Steve Plonk
People who carry posters of Santorum or Chairman Mao aren't going to make it
at anything anyhow... :lol: A paraphrase of a Beatles quote...

Re: "You say you want a revolution"

Posted: May 12th, 2012, 8:12 pm
by stilltrucking
Santorum , yeah he amazed me, I thought he was a lunatic, but there he was surrounded by all those adoring crowds.

speaking of revolutions that song has an interesting history, another version was played by the British when they surrendered at Yorktown.


If buttercups buzz'd after the bee
If boats were on land, churches on sea
If ponies rode men and if grass ate the cows
And cats should be chased into holes by the mouse
If the mamas sold their babies
To the Gypsies for half a crown
If summer were spring
And the other way 'round
Then all the world would be upside down!

http://www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/chronic ... n1781.html
Speaking of surrendering I been thinking we might have been better off if we surrendered in 1781 :wink: