anyone got...

[Glorious Amok]

a brochure style template? like the kind you would use to make a wee chapbook with?

i need to start typing up event programs for my play, and i just got a wicked sponsor. and if i can get these all typed up by sunday, i can photocopy them all for free.

so... page one goes last, or something... how does that work?

[hester_prynne]

Geez Glam, I wish I knew.
I'd like to see how it comes out......I'm sure it will be brilliant being as you are working on it.
I mean that.
Wish I could be more helpful.....

H

[Doreen Peri]

Hey, OGlamorousOne!

I don't have a template for Word but I think I can explain to you a reasonably easy way to achieve what you want to do.

Try this -

I'm assuming, since you said like a chapbook, that you want your document to be on 8-1/2 x 11 sheets folded in half, then stapled in the middle to make your booklet.

If so, decide how many pages you want in the booklet.

Then take 1/2 that number of letter sized sheets of paper and fold them in half to make a mock-up.

Take your pencil and write on the pages..... Front cover, page 1 & what's going to be on it - page 2 & what's going to be on it - page 3 & what's going to be on it, etc.

OK, so once you have your mockup, each page will have 4 numbers on them, the frong left side, front right side, back left side and back right side. (I hope this is making sense because it's tough to put into words.)

Then, go into your Word program and create a multiple page document, the same amount of pages as your 8-1/2 x 11 sheets.

Set it up as landscape put your text in the appropriate places, as per your mockup, including the page numbers. If Word has a tool to create a guideline in the center of the document to separate the booklet pages which are 1/2 the size of the letter-sized page, do that. That will help when you place your text on the page.

In other words, if your booklet has 8 pages, your document will have 4 pages, with each half page numbered to match your mock-up.

When you print, you will print page 2 of the document on the back of page 1 of the document, page 4 on the back of page 3.

Then you would put them together, fold them and staple, and your pagination should be correct.

Make sense?

Hope so.

It wasn't really all that easy to write out in words. I hope I explained it ok.

Best wishes for the show! Break a leg! Knock 'em dead!

[Glorious Amok]

doreen, that's brilliant! okay, i'm going to try that right now.

thank you ladies, you're two of a fabulous kind.

[Doreen Peri]

But Wait! I goofed!

If your booklet will have 8 pages, you would only have two 8.5 x 11 sheets, not four!

Sorry about that!

Four 8.5 x 11 sheets will yield a 16-page booklet because there are 4 booklet pages per sheet, 2 on each side.

Hope I caught you in time but I'm sure, even if I didn't, you'd figure this out when you started folding and numbering the pages.

Whew!

Let us know how it worked out, ok?

Thanks!

[judih]

hey doreen,

that's what i do, but i thought i was going around it the klutzy way. There is a program available for Macs - i know that it exists - it's how Ray made my chapbook.

On this PC though, i use Text blocks to place a poem on each side of the landscape page.
Then i decide which order i want the things and print first one side of half the contents and then re-feed the pages (printed side up) into the printer to print out the other half.

Sometimes i play with the order, sometimes i do a slew at once to keep myself focused.

i don't have a long stapler though, so that's why i have to hand sew the books.

i was sure you'd have a template. There has to be a template somewhere out there.

j

[Doreen Peri]

hi judih!

I'm sure there probably are templates out there for Word for doing a fixed number of pages, properly paginated. I don't know for certain but I'd suspect somebody must have one. I don't use Word. I hate it.

I use Quark.

If you set it up as a 5.5 x 8.5 page in Quark, you can paginate it within the application using facing pages in the document layout window.

But if you're going to print it off the desktop, most don't have a desktop printer for 5.5 x 8.5 paper so, it's necessary to use the full sheet and unfortunately, none of the applications I'm aware of have the capability of paginating a half of a page.

If I set up 5.5 x 8.5 booklets in Quark using the facing-pages setting and at the exact size of the page, I could take the file to a copy center which has Quark on their machines and they'll print it for me on the correct-sized paper. Maybe PC users using Word could do the same thing! Just an idea.

Kinkos probably uses Word files. They don't use Quark, though, which is really strange because all printshops forever use Quark as the standard page layout app. The printshop I use doesn't currently have a copyshop. I need to find a good copyshop.

Kinkos only uses .pdfs made from my Quark files, unfortunately. They can't print from Quark files and saving a Quark file as a .pdf is fine, but if the printer isn't postscript, the text prints smaller than it should and off-center. It's a pain.

The ideal way is to paginate at the exact size of the page, which many page layout programs can do. Word, unfortunately, is a Word Processing program, not a page layout program, no matter how enthusiastic Microsoft is to make it one. The tools suck. And there are way too many of them.

But it could work with Word to set it up the way I suggested which is what you already do, or better yet, to create the document at the exact size of the page and set up facing-pages, if Word has that option, then take it to a copyshop.

Sounds like coffeeshop, only they deal in ink instead of caffiene.

heh

I rambled. Sorry... lol...

Ink & Caffeine.
Ink & Caffeine.
Addictions to print &
Stamina?

Sounds like the name of an Arts Magazine.

"Ink and Caffeine"
The Arts Magazine!

YES!!! Let's do it!

A Studio Eight production featuring S8 music, art, writing, etc.

Nah... I think this type of thing has been done.

But I love the name "Ink & Caffeine"

Maybe it will be a regular feature on the weekly Studio Eight dot TV Show.

lol

[judih]

Ink and Caffeine - great idea for a coffee fueled word jam

there could be variations
coke hi
grass sass

i better get out of here

one thing's for sure - after reading all those numbers, pagination devices and names, i need some sunlight.

they don't have Kinkos in this country, but there is another joint in Tel Aviv. So, there's a pdf possibility floating around

later

ink kool