Studio8 - Uniting the Arts

Please read and comment.

Yes, it's an interview with David Icke, who has been ridiculed by the media (surprise, surprise!), but, in my opinion, the views expressed in this interview provide some really serious shit to think about.

Serious as a fart in a space suit

oh well, I´ve read Foucault´s pendulum and my ancestors were peasants and artesanos, but who knows!

I have read this "Biggest Secret" and came across a lot of information that I found suprising and enlightening, a lot of the background history he provides. But I think he has a way of hotwiring the fact to fit this theory of his. I am all the better for exposing myself to such a radical, outlandish view, but don't know that I buy the Reptile alien stuff. Bloodlines ruling for thousands of years, I do. Just look at who modern day asristocrats marry and mingle with, only themselves, even still today. A little know fact, reported by CNN even just before the last election for president, is that John Kerry and George Bush are cousins! The bloodline stuff is what to take from Icke, in my opinion. He didn't discover this stuff himself my any means, but he has put it all together in a clear enough way. From the interview...

"And when you look at the genealogy of American Presidents, it is utterly astonishing in support of this. There are about 260 million Americans, at the moment. And if you add up all those who have called themselves American since 1776, it will run into hundreds and hundreds of millions. Well, 42 of those hundreds of millions have actually become President of the United States. You would think, on the law of averages alone, that those 42 would have some tremendous genetic diversity.

Well, they don't. According to Burke's Peerage, the bible of Aristocratic and Royal genealogy based in London, every American election since and including George Washington, in 1789, has been won by the candidate with the most European Royal genes. 33 of the 42 are genetically related to two people: Charlemagne (King), the most famous monarch of what we call France, and Alfred the Great, the King of England. They're the two countries, overwhelmingly, France and Britain, out of which these bloodlines came in Europe."

That's true, we all think that even the street sweeper can be president, not unless he is one of them. It's all a pagent, who's behind the wheel? I doesn't madder, the ship's going to sink soon enough and the power structures will crumble, I believe that.

[An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship...]
"I come in peace," it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard."
Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.
"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"
"What?"
"I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"
"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."
Ford shrugged again.
"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."

courtesy of DNA

Ohhh .... crap! "The sons of Gods and the daughters of men"

Give me a break.

Conspiracy theories.

I am directly descended from Elder William Brewster of Mayflower fame. Does that mean I'm one of them?

This bit about the Merovingian kings. I've read it and read it and I still don't get it. Yeah, the bees on Napoleon's coronation robes hearken back to them.

Read, "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" if you want to be even further confused. That books connects the Merovingian kings to the bloodline of Jesus the Christ (that is, if you believe he HAD a bloodline!).

Frankly, I don't give a good god-damn who's ruling the world. I just wish they'd do a good job and not the job they're doing.

my two cents

cat,

I read Holy Blood, Holy Grail

it was amusing but I couldn't get the connections either

Mother Mary in France? Did Speilburg produce this thing?

You know, they've got a pictorial version of it out for the holidays this year.

I love that goddamn book. I read it after my dad did, when it first came out in 1980s. It sucks you in and spits you out. Now it's a big deal again because of "The DaVinci Code" and all the Knights Templar mythology surrounding it.

Is it possible? Did Jesus survive the crucifixion and go on to form a dynasty? Sure, anything is possible. Just link up enough connections and anything works.

But .... who cares?

Like I said, whoever is in charge right now, they've got their work cut out for them. Bildenbergers or whoever they are ....

Frankly, I don't give a good god-damn who's ruling the world. I just wish they'd do a good job and not the job they're doing.

The one thing that I believe is that it is men. Men as in male who are running the world. I think they are doing their worst. Time for a change. I mean a big change. Hilary wears jockey shorts and Jesus wears a skirt. I would never call myself a male feminist. I have tried to deal with women in such an abstract way. The phenomenology of female spaciality. The Jewish women in my family loved that patriarchial god. I can not understand it. I say bring back the goddess. Bring back the abomination on the mountain tops.

I don't mean hilary rod in hand clinton or Condosleeza Rice. But there is a purient streak in me that would like to see them in a presidential race I think it would make a great porn movie.

I think douglas adams did not drink himself to death, I think he died of a broken heart. In a hundred years there will be wonderful museums that will have beautiful displays of all the vanished animals. Except for rats, they will do fine and so will people. Although we will come in more interesting colors and shapes. I think we will have purple skin an extra hand growing out of our lower backs where our tails used to be. Maybe and extra eye under our arm pit, and we will be able to breathe sulfur dioxide in stead of oxygen. But I have a bad tendency to be optimistic



Abby I am sick. my buddhist friends tell me I got to ride this despair take it as far as I can.
How many babies born today? Maybe a savior for mankind will be born today. Oh yes come holy night silent night. Most likely he will be born in Darfur and starve before his first birthday.

Come on sisters get your shit together.
Or do you want to be a polyester bride
80 percent of american college women want to be a Mrs. These are the end times, the rapture, who can blame them for not wanting to walk into paradise alone. Shit I am ranting, rambling raving, what the hell was this about 9/11. Who fucking cares? I saw it on the TV that morning at the ice house where I was buying cigarettes. I had a couch person living with me. What do you call a musician who has broken up with his girlfriend? I used to love it for the times when he would pick up his old Martin guitar and play. But most of the time he was a mean drunk. maybe that is why he was homeless. Well anyway I came home with my cigarettes and did not tell him what had happened. I figured he would find out soon enough. I did not want to hear him rant an rave about niggers. Sand niggers. A couple hours later he found out about it and looked at me funny. Wondering why I had not told him we were at WAR.

I am putting a lot of hope in the 2006 election. I am hoping those democratic senators and congressmen who had the good sense to vote against the iraq war will clean house in the democratic party. I have high hopes for Barbara Boxer. I like her voice. Believe it or not there is a man named Rockefeller who I would vote for in a heart beat. Jay Rockefeller from WVA. Boxer/Rockefeller or Rockefeller/Boxer, my dream team. As Jesus said, "We will always have the rich with us."

RB:

Some of Icke's material reminds me a little of the latest "Batman" sequel which I just saw with some friends.

"The Legion of Shadows" ( headed by a sneaky and saturnine Liam Neeson) has "kept civilization safe" for thousands of years. Evidently, this has been handled by Ninja-ing to death anyone who seems to conflict with their ideology, which consists mainly in offing whoever Liam Neeson says is bad for the gene pool.

Bruce Wayne ( aka Batman) is asked to join them and clean up Gotham City in the process. Of course, like every Truly Moral Western Hero, Bruce refuses to kill people, even villains.

Bruce is also conveniently filthy rich, which frees him to have what Henry James called, in reference to his own characters, "subjective adventures."

http://www.geocities.com/gamut_mag/batmanb.htm

Flavoring the goulash of "little-boy-macho-fun" in the Batman sequel is a psychiatrist who deranges people instead of curing them. This he accomplishes by throwing some "weaponized" LSD-esque powder on them ( read: "fairy dust") and then quickly slipping a burlap hood over his face. The movie viewer then sees the victim's hallucinations: squirming buckets of maggots, rending bloody fangs, etc..

Reminds me of the effect watching tv game shows has on some people I know.

Thus Hollywood keeps a long tradition of fantasy alive.

Now all this fun nonsense was in Fritz Lang's Mabuse films of the 1920's and 30's.


http://members.aol.com/MG4273/lang.htm


Herr Lang imagined an evil genius behind every crime, or even missed opportunity. So did Conan Doyle in the 1890's with his Professor Moriarty, nemesis of Sherlock Holmes.

One can find the same sort of symbiotic relationship between God and Jonah.

It's simply easier to parse reality, or as Nabokov has it, "reality" with a master villain or "operator" behind every screw-up.

Except for misread maps, fog banks and a lack of aircraft for reconnaissance, the Germans might not have forced the Turks to close the Dardanelles to Russia at the opening of WWI.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWdardanelles.htm

Was there a master hand behind all of it? Hmmm . . .the Kaiser was too headlong and rash to have planned such chess moves.

No wonder the ancient Greeks posited the intervention of Zeus and his earnest, roistering, lusty pantheon.

Ickes has some good ideas, particularly his views of tolerance.

Along with the recent pronouncements of George Regas, which I have linked to my posts on this board, I like the personal views of Thich Nhat Hahn:

(paste)

Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education. However, through compassionate dialogue, help others renounce fanaticism and narrowness.

Do not avoid contact with suffering or close your eyes before suffering. Do not lose awareness of the existence of suffering in the life of the world. find ways to be with those who are suffering by all means, including personal contact and visits, images, sound. By such means, awaken yourself and others to the reality of suffering in the world.

Do not accumulate wealth while millions are hungry. Do not take as the aim of your life fame, profit, wealth, or sensual pleasure. Live simply and share time, energy, and material resources with those who are in need.

Do not maintain anger or hatred. As soon as anger and hatred arise, practice the meditation on compassion in order to deeply understand the persons who have caused anger and hatred. Learn to look at other beings with the eyes of compassion.


( end paste)


http://www.seaox.com/thich.html


which seem to be to approach a kind of quiet, contemplative and appropriately oblique explanation of much of the ruin mankind has worked upon itself.

Thanks for the link and the interview by Ickes, RB.

As always,


Zlatko

sorry I was talking about the wrong book.

As I understand it mitochondrial DNA is how these genetic things are done. The dna handed down from mother to daughter over thousands of years. So ther are Seven Sisters who all Europeans are descended from. ANd I suppose they were the grandaughters of EVe.

And Jesus was a jew because his mother was a jewess, those old jews were plenty smart, the reckonned descent matrilinearly not because of mitochondrial DNA I don't think, but because who knows who the father of a baby is?

David Icke I think I have run across him a couple of times on 9/11 conspiracy sites. You know what I like about those mother fuckers, they post the names of the bilderbuggers but some of the names they put an asterik besides indicating that not only are these killer blood suck lizards from outer space, but the ones with the * are also Jews.

Oh yeah I got a bar of soap my uncle brought back from the war, it was a gift from the witch of buchenwald, it used to be my great aunt.

Yes it a good day for the meek
it starts when you are always afraid
Why do so many of those conspiracy sites have links to holocaust denial revisionist history sites. When the last world war two vet dies, the last okie or cracker from alabama who walked through those death camps and witnessed it first hand, when they are gone, who is going to tell the truth.

Never again my ass, it could happen again tomorrow,

oh fuk it

thank god for the Catholic Church, it makes for some great horror movies. where would we be without supernatural evil.

I like the Davinci Code, the best forty five minute read I have had in a long time. I like the part with the peanuts as the murder weapon.

sorry I thought you all were talking about Douglas adams novel
I should have known better. We read only serious literature.

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspirac ... _theories/

Z it all sounds good, I get about five channels on my old TV with the rabbit ears. I have to pass through the Jerry Springer Show to get to the get to THe Simpsons. I suppose inadverdently I have seen maybe 15 minutes of Springer this year. It alwasy gives me great hope for the funture of mankind.

Got dam cynicism
got dam my socks are hard
got dam me for caring
I am serriously considering becoming a hindu. I like the caste system.

a web site that I found yesterday doing wandering-google:

www.solarc.squarespace.com