Studio8 - Uniting the Arts

My writing and internet publishing questions of the day are --

How important are your poetry line breaks to you?

Do you work hard on breaking your poetry lines in certain places deliberately?

If you pushed "send" on an internet site and saw that your poetry was published as prose and your line breaks were missing and you had no way to fix it, would it bother you?

Or would you just not care?

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(pardon moi... just a little upset that apparently there's a software glitch over at litkicks or something because my line breaks to my poem disappeared and it looks like garbled prose and i can't fix it because there's no edit button....... bothers me a great deal... even though i'm sure it's a software glitch.... but the situation inspired me to ask you all about how important your line breaks are to you... believe me, i support the litkicks projects in every way and i'm excited to participate in them, i'm just disappointed to see my line breaks gone and my poem not my poem any more.... anybody else experiencing this problem?)

well? whatchya say? hmmmm????

definitely - my line breaks matter
but yet today, i might break the lines in entirely different locations than what i did yesterday

by the way - i found an edit button - it exists (within the hour limit to edit)

to get there, i went to my membername, to my posts and then clicked on the latest post.

there are 3 buttons, bottom one 'edit'

j

hi judih -

i found the edit button, too, then i replaced my poem because it wasn't appearing as a poem and bingo! it was FIXED! that was last night when i went to bed at about 3am and then this morning at 10am, no edit button and the post isn't a poem any more... it's a jumbled mess of words... phooey!

yeah, it means a lot to me but i feel the same way you do... tomorrow, i may want to break the lines in a different place... writing poetry is a continual process... the darn things are alive... they think for themselves.... my poems are never finished

but the thing is, i don't want to publish a poem on the internet with deliberate line breaks if it looks like a conglomeration of mushed up words after i press go...... if my line breaks disappear, it's not what i wrote

so i very much hope they fix their software glitch because i can't post poetry there any more until it's fixed *sigh*

thanks for your input, judih... i was a little frustrated... still am, really..... "he's a son of a bitch" is supposed to be a poem

further evidence that the internet is not perfect... lol... i found that out yesterday, too, when people were viewing my pages not as they look on my own machine

i'm over my head maybe....

hi dor

just read your elaboration over at MOOLs.
what a drag.
Did the staff put a message on the notification of your piece being published? Sometimes, there's an explanation.

i also read what Joe said to you about CSS, etc.
and that your sister sees your page with text spilling over.

Same thing happened to me using geocities cut and paste for idiots web makers. Cecil and Soo kept telling me text was showing on top of text. yet on my netscape and explorer browsers, things looked okay. Very frustrating.

Your site looks so professional - it's an inspiration of design - truly.

i wonder how many (what percentage) of viewers see it properly?

maybe you could include a feedback form at this point and ask that very question.

you know my response


j

you're a sweetheart, judih... thanks for the kind words

there's way more to this than i know even though i've designed quite a few sites already for professional companies... i'm a hold out on learning the code... there MUST be a way to code it and i know i'll figure it out but i rely on VISION... i design by what i see, not by text which is what code is

the answer is going to be content management software, which i need to get anyway so i can get the subdomains set up... because i'd love to have (and this is the goal) spots like artistsname.studioeight.tv where the writer or artist or musician, etc., will have their own spot for their material and public reply (similar to the studios but bigger) .... that's what the Artlogs section will be

i've got a lot to learn but i'm very grateful that the response i've gotten so far has been positive, for the most part... my other sister, who is really my mentor and has been for years in regards to design, had only positive things to say (along with her critique, of course... lol) ... but her text didn't over flow from her machine

about the litkicks thing, yes, there was a notification on my piece that the lines weren't appearing right and they tried to "fix" it but what happened was, apparently (and this is just my guess) they didn't realize it was a poem and thought it was supposed to be prose..... *sigh*.... i donno... we're all trying... that's all i can say about this... i'm frustrated because i THOUGHT i had it fixed and replaced the line breaks in my poem and then they're not there any more so all i can think of is it's a software glitch

a feedback form is a good idea

thank you so much for that idea!

i think i'll do just that!

again, thanks..... forgive my frustration... this internet has baffled me since i first got here in 1998 so why should i be surprised now? LOL!

love you!

i see what you mean about litkicks having a software glitch. There's no way the staff would go back in to re-arrange an edit. How would they know you'd been there again? (tracing your footprints - checking your cookies - erasing your revision?)


by the way, woke up from a dream with you and L-rod. You invited us into your house - we were almost about to overstay our welcome, but we got to know the dynamics between you two. Thanks (the 'we' in this would be G -my partner, and i)
At the end there was something about a washing machine - you had 2 and L-rod wanted you to sell him one.

no need to open up a 'dream forum' for this. ---!

j

hehe... a washing machine... must be reminiscent of our poet's dirty socks repartee? LOL! i don't know if you remember that or not

umm... yeah, about the litkick's glitch, there's really no way of interaction over there other than email and that's been done so.... oh well...here, we can delete a post but this is different software... who knows... it's the wild west of the internet...

but about the washing machine and you and G coming to visit, you crack me up because one of my lines in the poem i wrote to LR about the poet's dirty socks when we first met was about my g-strings getting wrapped around his socks and mixed up in the dryer so you mentioning that your partner's name is G just struck me as funny..... just know that if you both ever come and visit (and you are very welcome any time), nobody here will try to sell you a washing machine.... including Lightning Rod... and you are welcome to stay as long as you like....

AND.... a dream forum sound fabulous!! what a great idea! i've got so many metaphors and images running around in my dreams, i'd love to have a poet analyze them!

line breaks matter

enormously,

for the visual appearence-design but also for me, at least, it functions as a guide to pauses in reading, that is, when i make a line break i want that to be reflected in the way it is recited (although i know most poets do not use line breaks this way, i.e.e many will read a poem as if it were prose anyway; i always wonder, then, why the hell they break it up? because of the visual, yes, but sometimes these same poets will say that sound is all the essence of it (poetry) all!)


though you can / add / slashes/ to signify / the placement of / breaks.

How you entended it to be is the way you wanted it to be. That's how I see it. If there is a problem then they need to fix it right away.
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Mercedes Benz SL Class