Studio8 - Uniting the Arts

A thread about the lack of forums (i.e none) on litkicks.com when they were such a home for us wretched artists and poets with otherwise... very little substance to our lives... or at least, mountains of time on our hands, sparked a curiosity. I remeber after peering in on the October Earth project and commenting that Levi had put up a post about being able to Google old threads. You should definetly try it. Some old gold there.

See ya space Cowboy.

--k

I have spent hours trying to find an abehill haiku. The archives only go back to 2001, as near as I can tell.
Oh well what the hell.


Yes I think the Haiku board is a national treasure. I am grateful to them for keeping it up on the net. The Poetry and AP are also gold.

Yi-pi-yi-ay, Yi-pi-yi-o
to you to cowgirl,

pollyanna cow girl

There must be a million people using that name. Do they teach The Bell Jar in elementary school these days.

As the riders loped on by him, he heard one call his name
"If you want to save your soul from hell a' ridin' on our range"
"Then cowboy change your ways today or with us you will ride"
"A-tryin' to catch the Devil's herd across these endless skies."

Yi-pi-yi-ay, Yi-pi-yi-o
Ghost riders in the sky
Ghost riders in the sky

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/vaughn-mo ... yrics.html

I was about nine years old when that song was number one on Billboard's top hits list. How old were you in 1949? Just a rhetorical question, not a pop quiz.

Litkicks was a lively place, I had many a great discusion thereon myself, but was irritated that such a place was lorded over by such a guy as this Levi. He seemed to have such a me-me view of Litkicks, 'I'm the boss here, I created this place, I don't think that is appropriate, I, I, I' I didn't like that.

Okay fella, this thing is out of your hands, you created this animal, but it is beyond your control now, just let it go, let the democratizing process take place and stand back. He couldn't do that and had to get his minions to police it. Then all at once the place was condemed, seized up.

But there is one thing that Litkicks had that this place is yet to aquire and that is such a number of users to make it in a way like realtime conversation on the boards. You'd post something one Litkicks and then right away someone would comment on it and it and you'd write back, would be a conversation.

This place is still cottage industry enough to be like the pony express, send off that message and then go milk the cows and feed the chickens and then check back a day later to see if anyone has responded. Like playing chess by way of message in a bottle.

But one day this place will mamoth and have tons of users on at all hours, and then it will dwarf Litkicks, LRod and Doreen are the best of Administrators as well, possessed expressly by the values of free speech and real democracy, there'd never be some holier than thou remark on their part about being respectful to others or their deleting something, I don't guess, unless it was outright slander and then maybe they would step in and maybe say, we object to that, but simply that: 'the Administrators object to this person's comments'

So, this place will grow and there will be more and more areas of thought into which it expands, and then at that point, just stand back Doreen and LRod, just let it grow

Let it grow
Let it grow
Let it blossom
Let it flow
In the sun, the rain, the snow
Love is lovely
Let it grow

...being able to Google old threads. You should definetly try it. Some old gold there.

i've tried that, get to the thread, but get an empty page when i click on the thread

do you do something different that gives you access?

LK is a foreboding place now. Just going over there is like being amongst ghosts of the past. No life what so ever. Yeah this is what I want to see.
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A group mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Litkicks was good to me. I was so lost and homeless after I lost my life over the road. It felt like I was home again. Litkicks was the start of a new life for me. . I have read more poetry and seen more art than in the last six years than I have in the previous sixty. I met people there who have been helpful to me in my journey. There was an amazing collection of writers there; I am always rooting around in the archives and getting blown away. I could hear the weariness growing in his voice in the months before he pulled the doors down. . I used to call it Brooklyn’s asylum for the terminally vain
Disclaimer, brooklyn paid me twenty bucks to write this.

yep, i remember it fondly.

everything changes, i guess.

i miss it sometimes.

too bad because it was getting better and better and then... kapoot! gone!

i don't have anything against blogs. I have one myself... but they threw away a community in exchange for a blog and i've now lost track of lotsa people who i felt very close to.

oh well.

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lovingpenfull - thanks for your kind words... i'm not sure if we'd be able to handle it if it grew bigger. I, too, like it when more people are online at the same time, though, which is why the word jam events are very cool, in my opinion. About the free speech/democracy thing... well we did have a member who kept coming here and trolling the place and being extremely rude and it was very difficult for me. I zapped many of his names over and over. So, no, 'free speech' doesn't really apply here if that means we allow someone turning the place into a playground for words which demean and assault. Glad you like it here. i do too.

http://www.uoc.edu/in3/hermeneia/sala_d ... ntents.htm

That is a post about the search for on line community, Sherry Turkle sounds like an accademic hero of mine.
Trolling? is that what he is doing. Trolling for what I wonder?
I figured I was the one trolling, but I never developed necrophilia
Oh Never mind.

I never had a trouble with brooklyn, but I am pretty sure firecrackerdiah took a dislike to me. I should never have posted that picture of my self to the vanity board, Remember the picture board.? . I like that guys writing, the poor bastard is a genius. that dam bell curve don't predict happiness. that is even more rare than genuis. But if you can't suffer for your art what's the point.

Talk about necrophilia my fixation on suicidal writers and peots.

The worse case screnario of a tragic end of a on line communtiy. Was The Well, it was bad. Not sure how it used to be but it went down. An on line rape, dam I don't want to remember. But at least litkicks is fading into that good night gracefuly. I disagree with you penful. Litkicks just got tired of the raging ego's. That is my guess. It got too soo poplar, more than he wanted to deel with. He wanted less is more and that is what he has. I wish him well. He could have given us more time to say good bye to each other and make arrangements to keep in touch. I mean I was one of the intouchables, I was troll, twenty user names deleted. I must have been a real sicko. I know I made so dumb posts dick head and asinine, and one poor young woman was vomiting her guts out because of me. But I have done the same on studio eight and not been deleted. I would have to say that Doreen and her maintenance man do a hell of a lot better of tending this garden then that troika over on litchicks. And brooklyn is a fine writer. That covers a multitude of sins I think.

I don't know "The Well".. classic definition of a troll is someone who comes to a forum for the sole purpose of disrupting it.....that's not you, Still...... can't count the number of times i've posted something on this board or that or elsewhere wishing litkicks well...

i can certainly understand something becoming too big to feel comfortable managing and if it happened here where i couldn't manage it, i'd try to sell it.. lol.. no wait! i'd give it away... (can't sell anything that's not income producing )

and 'Truckin', I really don't think there can be a comparison to say anybody does any better job at anything.. i'm not ready to take those honors.. all i did was press a button that said "install" and here we are... LR plays music and posts it and i think of ideas to get people together but i barely write a word any more and i'm missing that a great deal which is one reason why i said i miss litkicks...i'm going to start writing by hand in a book with blank pages and add illustrations.. something to do anyway

I wish Kerouac was still around he would probably be writting spontaneous html by now. I got ten journals (maybe only five) I got a stack of those big brown grocery bags covered in writting. Truck stop napkins. Motel stationary. Folders of disintergrating type written pages, I think the oldest composition books go back to revere beach massachusettes. Pretyy sure it was the winter of 74. I suppose I have held onto more than I thought. My brother or sister must have had it. Cause I travelled light. I been thinking about getting one of those big clunky mechanical trypewritters that bill' king's father youse to repair. I like the thwack thwack sound of the keys, filling a page with text and pulling it out like it is still bresh bread right from the oven. I am just addicted to the grind. So lost when I stumbled on litkicks, I had lost the road a few months before. I felt like a beached whale. I had some good times there and then it shut down. I was stunned. It seemed like they could have given us a day to say good bye. Maybe brooklyn figured we would just spend the day bitching at him for shutting daown. It sure was an orphaned kind of feeling when they did shut down Then I heard from jimboloco about a board called litkicks orphans over on yahoo. Then I actually sent in ten bucks for a user name on freedom hall. I never felt the way lovingpenful did. I figured it was his ballpark and his ball. He set the rules I never felt lorded over by him. I don't want to bring it up again cause the don't want to hear it but I suppose he was capable of keying someone's car. Bill King called him transcenant, sure don't sound transcendant to me.

Trolls

A virtuous person promotes agreement.
A person without virtue promotes blame

I found that in a fortune cookie along with the winning numbers to last weeks three hundred million dollar lotto jack pot.

Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesterday!

http://web.archive.org/web/200110110022 ... /index.jsp

or

http://web.archive.org/web/200210101034 ... /index.jsp


or

http://web.archive.org/web/200112170113 ... Utterances

OR!!

http://web.archive.org/web/200308010510 ... kicks.com/

"oh my lord!" as Nate would say. Scooter, I just had a flashback! Hah! That was and is a great picture.

Everything has to die, Jerry Garcia died, Janice and Jim died and sadly so did the old Litkicks but weren't they all fun when we knew them!!!

At least we have the memories, the archives and old records...

I made some great friends there including Levi, my Jammies and FC. I would never call those girls minions... Everyone makes mistakes, I am no exception and neither are they. I will continue to make mistakes, no mistake about it. Hah!

I shudder at some of the happenings, I grieved...a lot. But life does go on and Studio Eight was a bright and shinning light for me. (go towards the light... )

I am sorry we can't or refuse to all get along (to quote a certain beat-up man) but that is the way it 'tis...

Maybe someday Peace will come.

Note to Jackie: Look for Abbehill not Abehill...I know her.

We have our troll and "perezo" was it. Remember when "those posts" would show up. Oh what trouble there would be. That person couldn't form good criticism. It was only harsh put downs that went way over the line all the time.

brooklyn is still kicking himself for seeing the direction that S8 has taken. He wished he had done that instead. But there it be and he has to live with it. Blogs are fine so long as it's not the only thing around. I don't like how when I saw the front page of LK now a days. How it's just the "three" who's post I see right away. True there are those who's post are there on the front page as well. But I have to look for them. Here you can see who has posted and everyone stands out. YES!!!! That is a democracy!!!! Where over there it's a "demockery"!!!!
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We have our troll and "perezo"

I suppose. But he does write some good stuff. Hell I don't care if he wants to dig my poor dead mother out of her grave and fist fuk her. Some people like that sort of thing. Different strokes for...

SooZen bullshit. No big deal, we be friends I hope, don't mean we have to agree on everything.

I was a troll on litkicks or at least that is the way I was treated. The first five or six times I got deleted I cried, moaned and bitched about it. The next ten or fifteen times I was deleted I never said a word about it. Just signed in for a new user name and keep on trucking. We don't see eye to eye. Only one person on litkicks that has good reason to treat me like a troll. And she seemed to have got over it. It all started with a poem she wrote about an old man sitting on a bench, holding a leaf that turned out to be the same color as hers. It is all grist for the mill. All I know is that the flame board on litkicks was like my Zen board. I am a better man than I was. I hope anniefay is still in good health.
I always get what I got coming, I never have to ask. I got what I had coming on litkicks. Is there any one else here who was deleted about twenty times (I don't think that is much of an exaggeration) I think I gave firecracker the squirms.

If not for surfermike, and scootertrash I think I woudl have burned to death on the flames board. . Frontal Abstraction was kind also.

I am also grateful to brooklyn, he cured me of the delusional desire to be a paperback writer. The best thing that ever happened to me was being turnded down for the litkicks writer's work shop he was going to teach me to write fast. I feel compassion for brooklyn. I still think a lot of the problems at litchicks were chick things, Issues between women, and I think brooklyn was in over his head.

Scootertrash that was the good old days for sure. Thanks for the links

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