Microbe how many of your family has been murdered lately? Is that a reasonable question? Did you loose any loved ones On 9/11/01. If you did I appogogize for my insensitivity. IF not then let me mention this in passing. I have a lot of family that has disapeared. Now this has happened in my lifetime. People we have never heard from in over 60 years. I take comfort in the fact that the Holocaust is another Jewish conspiracy and that all my felatives are living in Miami beach under witness protection programs and they can't write us.
Well that david ray griffing. Some one interviewed him on CNN or Salon or someplace like that. They asked him a very reasonable question I thought "if as you say the pentagon was hit by a rocket not a hijacked airplane what happened to that airplane?"
The good doctor got a little irritated he shrugged and said "I dont know what whappend to that airplane" now that seemed like a reasonable question to me. And it has a reasonable answer, UFO's come down and took the airplane away to cover thier tracks.
David Griffin started out on this website they were the first one to carry his Address to the MJCA (the Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance)
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They are covering their tracks not it is a podcast less able to track I suppose here is the orginal site it was carried on.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn.htm
here is another little goodie from the same website.
http://www.apfn.net/edomites.htm
Here is more I have done your homework for you
I been here done that got the hat
who think it is perfectly reasonable to question
And I am telling you that behind a lot, maybe not all of these conspiracy sites are a vast right wing conspiracy. Dig down though the sites and sooner or later on most of them you will find holocaust denials and worse.
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The first one on the list there. Dr David Ray Griffin, a trained theologist a real sweet guy would not harm a fly. But he gave that speech to a group called MUJCA and it has highly promoted by AFPN or APFN american friends patriot network, all these sites interconnect you seem pretty computer literate. One person could set up fifty different websites, create a buzz give them selves awards for truth telling have them quote each other etc etc...make big hits on google. Submit annoymous ariticles to unchecked factoid sites lik wikpedia.
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Well back to The Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance. Turns out the Jew in the alliance is some mystery man who showed up in Israel, claimed to be a Russian Jew, turns out he was a Stalinist. The author of articles on The Jews The Christ Killers and shit like that. But I am supposed to keep my cools. I wish I had LR's control. But I am just a hysterical Jew with half my family gone in the holocaust; oh pardon me I meant to say the alleged holocaust.
Quote:
Israel Shamir is a nationalist and obsessed with nationalism. He is himself, of course, an extreme nationalist – a Great Russian chauvinist, who has swallowed all the worst aspects of this most reactionary kind of chauvinism. He embraces enthusiastically all the reactionary ideas that have come flooding back into Russia along with the restoration of capitalism. And he pretends that this represents love for Russia – when in fact it is quite the opposite.
compare this with the one below his "official biography" below
http://www.marxist.com/Theory/reply_shamir3.htm
Israel Shamir is the Jew in the Muslim Christion Jewish Alliance who sponsored Griffin's talk. They are all tied together. Shamir is a Stalinist. Nothing wrong with that. Right?
http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/ ... g00032.htm
Quote:
Israel Shamir, Russian-Israeli intellectual, writer, translator and journalist, is one of Israel’s leading peace activists. The decendent of a rabbi from Palestine, and an IDF veteran of the 1973 war, Shamir changed languages and traded in his literary-intellectual hat to become an activist in response to the terrible events of 2001. Here is his explanation: A Jewish folk tale relates the story of a mute child who had never said a word despite all the efforts of the doctors. Then one day, at the ripe age of ten, he dropped his spoon and cried out, "The soup is too salty!" His parents asked him in amazement why he had kept silent for years, and the child replied, "Until now, everything was all right". Read more on Israel Shamir by going to:
http://www.israelshamir.net/Israel_Shamir_Biography.htm
that is how the describe him on the
http://mujca.com/
website.
Those 911 conspiracy Theorists spend a lot of time defending them selves against crackpot magazines like
Scientific American,
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID ... 414B7F0000
and
Journals
The Minerals, Metals & Materials Society
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/01 ... -0112.html
Popular Mechanics,
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... page=4&c=y
TV shows
And NOVA
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/
·
The Collapse: An Engineer's Perspective
In this interview, Dr. Thomas Eagar, a professor of materials engineering and engineering systems at MIT, explains how and why the Twin Towers survived the initial impact -- and how and why they likely failed in the end.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/collapse.html
and wacko organizatons like
American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE)
Journal Paper
Discussion: by K. Sivakumar (See full record)
Closure: (See full record)
Abstract: This paper presents a simplified approximate analysis of the overall collapse of the towers of World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001. The analysis shows that if prolonged, heating caused the majority of columns of a single floor to lose their load carrying capacity, the whole tower was doomed.
http://www.pubs.asce.org/WWWdisplay.cgi?0200032
, so many of those 911 conspiracy sites show how much hatred still is in the world for Jews. Not just Israel but Jews everywhere.
UFO conspiracy theories, Jew hating conspiracies, right wing religious wackos and so forth. I am just don't care anymore. If it makes youl happy to entertain these theories I am not going to debate you. But I think they weaken the case against bush, makes it easier for his goons to dismiss anyone who opposes him as wackos.
http://www.serendipity.li/eden.html
I like it the best. No the Bush administration is not a bunch of incompetent corrupt greedy evil doers they are death lizards from outer space.
and that New York Jews were ordered to stay home that day (Zionists and other pro-Israeli factions, of course, were involved).
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/sciam_reply.htm
But you know I am a kike, a liar and twister of the truth,
I been thinking about using this Nazi poster as my icon
http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/Post9 ... laims.html
http://www.apfn.org/apfn.htm
Now when you dig down into apfn's website you find this
http://www.apfn.net/edomites.htm