Argument from the other side?...

[jimboloco]

i got that don bogard that ganja blues

"Is the anti-war movement (Iraq) too negative and one-sided in its approach and rhetoric?"


oy vey pass that bribe jews
less smoke with the ancestors of lenny bruce
too
never mind them silver coins, youse\kangarooze
pouches of pot
in your minds
absinthe induced rhymes and schemez
working outof a corner
jimbo' s
last stand, mon

an you can put that hashis in your tashkent pipe crew
jus let me inhale a puff or two

in the duh courtyard
buddha is drun kk
he grabs a vc rifle off a table
ay kay fourty seven
funky monkey
shit fires it straight up
into the high moon

\laughded
the new york times didn't print me lettre

but the univ of new hampshire student paper did.



yes we all read it in marketing class
and
martha stewart, my slacker stepdon says,
who waz that lady who jus gat outa jail and is the marketing whizz?

mirta
mi nombre favorita

mirth
on to b-52'z

an the major aksed me
"did you enjoy your marijuana?"


drunk sleep

just like then

[stilltrucking]

this fuking internet is driving me crazy, so many fuking lies, here is one link I found that may be the truth.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... erty1.html

This picture tears my heart


Looking for the lyrics to Randy Newman song "Coming to America"

Not a religion so much as a tribe this Jew thing for me Jimbo.

Benny Shapiro sailing into Galveston Bay in 1915.

Crazy Mike at Ellis Island.

I don't know what to believe anymore, Democrats and Republicans, yeah probably is a difference. I wish Kerry had taken the high ground not went along to get along.
Michael lists US imperialism like we are some sick fucking country, Let us name France, England, Germany Italy and on and on. Why does he only want to point the finger here?

I think of your blood thirsty tribe the Anglo's, and The History of The English Speaking People. Why has my tribe been such a consitent thorn in the side of the world. What would the 20th century been like without Marx, Freud, and Einstein?

I don't know Jimbo
But if I was a fig tree I would have said to him Fuk you Jesus. But spiderwoman found comfort when she laid her head on her savior's breast. And all I could say was "I love you but Jesus loves you best" Last time I saw her she was happy. So I would be number one on His shit list just for what he did for her. And whatever it takes to get you trough the night amigo is cool with me.

but:
but:
BUT:

never mind them silver coins

Jimbo that makes me nervous, you let that bit about the Jews and 9/11 slide on Michaels open mike post. I am the only one here who seemed to have noticed that.

In birmingham they love the governor
Now we all did what we could do
Now watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth

Mnaz I remember surfermike had a word for people who dig down in the archieves for stupid posts that people have made and then throw them back into their faces like banana cream pies. I remember saying that you sounded like a 14 year old methodist. That was before I appreaciated the clarity of your vision.

[jimboloco]

i was a teen age methodist
we had to play trompetas at the easter sunrise service
we cracked up
two laughing uncontrollably teenage methodist boys
he'd play a few notes, then couldn't contain himself
and then i'd play a few notes then lose it
cracking up in the upper balcony
oy vey\

we woke up


sailed away
to charleston bay
we had lots to eat
buckwheat pancakes and
so forth

why not take on the enemy's side?
why not take on the neo-cons' side
why not flip flop
psychedelick flag

[stilltrucking]

Jimbo if the neocons are right and I am wrong, I would be happy, the tragedy for me is Afghanistan, we might have done some good there, but anyway. I think beyond all the lives that have been lost in Iraq, the damage done. On top of that is the plain old fashion courruption and incompetence. Bad enough we started the war, worse yet was the fuck ups running it. Any general that had the courage to speak up against it was purged, they shopped around for the ambitious fucks who were hot to rubber stamp plans that they know were not thought through. Yes jim, I would be happy to be wrong and the neo-cons right, but what do ya think?
Added later

1983 Anne RomaineU.S.A. The first thing you have to say about Anne Romaine is that she's got an incredible voice. It's that classic country voice you could listen to sing anything. However, in this case, the material is as good asthe voice. Anne is from Gastonia, North Carolina, scene of one of the bloodiest labour struggles in southern history. She grew up surrounded by the realities of life in the south, and responded through her work as a singer-songwriter, historian and cultural worker by keeping alive the best of the old traditions while making a contribution to changing many of the oppressive features of life there. She is director of the Southern Folk Cultural Revival Project which she helped to found over 18 years ago, and has performed in concerts in every major college and community arts centre in the south, as well as in union halls, rallies and churches. Anne is a wonderful songwriter whose material deals with issues in a direct and straightforward fashion. She also writes beautiful songs for her daughter, and lately, she's been experimenting with reggae. It will be a real pleasure to listen to Anne Romaine again.

http://www.thefestival.bc.ca/archive/in ... perID=1231

Speaking of Methodists, I heard her back in Nashville around 1976. She sang a song about her “Shouting Shoes” went to Mexico as a teenage Methodist missionary. Lost her virginity and found her sanity.

[Zlatko Waterman]

Forgiveness has magical force.

Don Juan (in Castaneda) says: "Don't make yourself available."

That is often good advice.

We sometimes power so much that we do with rage, forgiveness seems like a gentle rain to the drought-shrivelled.

If I make myself available to Jesus, to Moses, to Yahweh, to Allah, does that diminish me?

How about making myself available to teachers, like Don Juan, Ravi Shankar, or Guru Maharaji?

http://www.ex-premie.org/papers/mastergod.htm

If I pray to a stone or a stuffed doll with the full conviction I might lend to more conventional dieties, does that diminish me?

Why does praying to money diminish me?

And compassion does not?


Should I have compassion for George W. Bush and Donald Rumsfeld?

Should I have compassion for Baqer?

http://www.islamonline.net/english/In_D ... e_04.shtml



Difficult questions for me. Though I instantly feel sorrow for Baqer.



--Z

[jimboloco]

The Coalition Provisional Authority promised to help with Baqer’s treatment and medicines, “but has given them nothing, no medicines, money, treatment or assistance with traveling out of Iraq for treatment in Jordan or beyond. We need to demand compensation and financial support from the forces responsible, for all civilian victims. At the moment, the military institution has complete impunity for what its soldiers do and the soldiers have impunity within the military.” Listening to Wilding I remembered again little Ali Abbas, whose arms were blown off in another unfortunate incident involving the military. Before he left Kuwait for treatment in the UK, the US military presented him with a US military hat. No doubt in military mind-set this was an honor. To the uninitiated, it was crassness beyond belief.

yeah an then little Ahmed Ali joined the secret intelligence agency with double upper extremity prostheses, became sort of an od d inspector of some renown, the young one who is wound3ed and survives is blessed,

except that he stayed on a soapbox

so indeed the story is false
satyrical
collateral damages with medals and bestowed honors
good sportsmanship
chivalry

none dare xcall the war insane

thazz what happened at the pow revival
this one dude was reading that statement about a quote from some army major


and they pulled the [plug

he went silent in the dusk
across the small pond,
a groovy amphiteatre

up on the stage
they pulled the plug
as he read
"none dared to call the war insane....."
(silence)


later i saw him sulking
ascowl upon his face
\the lone dissenter
i was underground at the time
th =e vietnam veteran against the war
conscientious objector
administrative discharge under honorable conditions
air farce's "anti-war occiferz clause"
a general or honorable discharge

shit i coulda been a general
he sulking alone
til the reunion came and we
got back toggether
vets ffoor pppeace
create your own heirarchy
guru root bullshit

ran out of words

[jimboloco]

don juanito ain't no root guru
but more of a trainer teacher
no master worship crapola
hombres

[stilltrucking]

yes you are right there is a difference jimbo. a big difference, dembo's a sorry lot but heads and shoulder above what we got now. roll another one just like the other one.

[jimboloco]

have another hit

we have to make choices

the kill the gerrymanderingmovement has just begun.

local quakers will have petitions to sign at next primary "elections"

i agree it is hard to have compassion for dick cheney.

ram dass supposedly has/had photograph of nixon or somebody on his altar to remind him about universal compassion.