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letter to editor, informing restraint to a nutt-case prez

Post by jimboloco » March 27th, 2008, 9:58 am

First, a letter to the St Pete Times from a bull-dog Marine officer, retired, then my letter to the editor in response.
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/letters ... 431320.ece

A warrior's role

Adm. William Fallon, the commander of the Tampa-based U.S. Central Command, should have been fired and the president would have been completely justified in firing him instead of allowing the admiral to depart on his terms.

I for one am getting tired of seeing generals and admirals become diplomats instead of warriors. If they want to be diplomats they should have joined the State Department.


The Esquire article that led to Fallon's resignationdescribes a commander who did not perform the will of the commander in chief. The commander of Central Command's job is to execute the policy established by the commander in chief. That's the way it is supposed to be. Instead, the article describes Fallon as the one standing between the president and war — "The Good Cop."

The president isn't well served by a military commander acting as a good cop in this dangerous world of nutcase dictators. The military commander should be the vicious pit bull, tugging on his chain, baring his teeth that the president — during the conduct of his foreign policy — can point to and say don't make me let the war dog loose because if I do he will kill you!

Let's get rid of the admirals and generals who want to be diplomats and put warriors in charge of combatant commands.

Kent Ralston, lieutenant colonel, U.S. Marine Corps (retired), Tampa
(to the editor, St Pete Times)
With due respect to the letter writer, "A warrior's role," March 26, I heartily disagree with the retired Marine Lt. Col. advocating the role of military commander as "vicious pit bull, tugging on his chain, baring his teeth that the president — during the conduct of his foreign policy — can point to and say don't make me let the war dog loose because if I do he will kill you!" This model leads to rash action and abuse of power, including the abuse of Marines as well, putting them at the butt end of bad deals with poor planning and stupid policy decisions.

Meanwhile, the warrior ethos has the urge to fight, but when Marines come home angry and battling inner demons, the Corps abandons them to character disorder discharges, courts-martials, and the veterans then find themselves on the street without substantive rehabilitation for PTSD.

The chief obstacle standing in the way of war against Iran has been the opposition of senior US military officers, who fear that another major military operation would further burden America's already overstretched combat forces. The most outspoken member of this common-sense faction was, until recently, Adm. William Fallon, commander of the US Central Command. When an article on Fallon appeared in Esquire that highlighted his criticism of the Bush/Cheney approach, he was forced to resign (though he insists he quit voluntarily). Fallon's departure five days before Cheney left for the Middle East clears the path for a US military strike.

Admiral Fallon is to be commended for his common sense in his informing restraint to a nutt-case president.

(J Loco)


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Post by jimboloco » March 27th, 2008, 12:48 pm

So while Admiral Fallon's boss, President George W. Bush, regularly trash-talks his way to World War III and his administration casually casts Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as this century's Hitler (a crown it has awarded once before, to deadly effect), it's left to Fallon -- and apparently Fallon alone -- to argue that, as he told Al Jazeera last fall: "This constant drumbeat of conflict...is not helpful and not useful. I expect that there will be no war, and that is what we ought to be working for. We ought to try to do our utmost to create different conditions."

What America needs, Fallon says, is a "combination of strength and willingness to engage."

http://www.esquire.com/features/fox-fallon
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Post by jimboloco » March 29th, 2008, 1:14 pm

Welll, this letter from another person addressed the same issue, was printed (not mine), perhaps he was less frothing.
A warrior's role | March 26, letter

Put the nation first

This letter said that President Bush should have fired the admiral in charge of the U.S. Central Command for "standing between the president and war." "The president," the letter writer says, "isn't well served by a military commander acting as a good cop in this dangerous world of nutcase dictators. The military commander should be the vicious pit bull, tugging on his chain, baring his teeth …"

We need military commanders whose loyalty is to the country, not to the president. We need military commanders who have the courage to speak the truth to a foolhardy and bloodthirsty president. Only nutcase dictators need vicious pit bulls to maintain their power. God protect us from the kind of military commanders the letter writer extols.

Gregory A. Morgan, Lutz
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/letters ... 435263.ece
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Post by stilltrucking » March 29th, 2008, 9:22 pm

Both good replys jim
Maybe his was more on message.
But I did not think you frothed. I have to google frothed to see if it means what I think it does.

Speaking of frothing

saw a Frontline episode a two parter about Bush's war.

Had me spitting at my tv set.
no kidding


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/

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Post by e_dog » March 30th, 2008, 1:31 am

president killy the bad guys.

yea prezidunt. kill the saddams.

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Post by what me worry? » March 31st, 2008, 9:28 am

Maybe his was more on message.
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Post by stilltrucking » March 31st, 2008, 9:47 am

ten four stay on message
don't fuck with the Irish
I suppose you could say the lt. colonel's letter was related to PTSD in some tangential way.

But you know everyone here knows what a stickler I am for staying on message, i never wander or ramble.

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Post by stilltrucking » March 31st, 2008, 10:04 am

What We Haven't Learned About War We Have Repeated: Warriors As Victims"
Review of Achilles in Vietnam
Author: Shay, Jonathan.
Publisher: New York: MacMillan Publishing Company.
Year: 1994.

http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol2is5/achilles.html
Amazon.com: Achilles in Vietnam: Combat Trauma and the Undoing of ...Amazon.com: Achilles in Vietnam: Combat Trauma and the Undoing of Character: Jonathan Shay: Books.
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Bryn Mawr Classical Review 94.03.21Jonathan Shay, Achilles in Vietnam: Combat Trauma and the Undoing of Character. New York: Atheneum, 1994 . Pp. 246. $20.00. ISBN 0-689-12182-2.
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Post by jimboloco » March 31st, 2008, 12:38 pm

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down and out
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Post by stilltrucking » March 31st, 2008, 1:02 pm

drown and in
for the duration
to the max

but then again
I am a pacifist
I drank the Quacker Kool AId
I walked the streets of Nagasaki
In my dreams of Ferlinghetti
I am no warrior
No christian soldier
And cindi sheehan says get israel out of palstine
she has the plan
she the man
her moral authority
is absolute
so says Mz Dowd

does this have anything to do with PTSD
I think I might have a slight case of it myself
is it contagious
can cowards like me get it too.

Yeah this gonna be worse than vietnam
we ain't seeing nothing jet
just wait till johhny comes marching home
again
Hoorah Hoorah

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