tren para todos (train for all)

[Arcadia]

The old once british ferrocarril, then national dissapearead with Menem government during the nineties. Lot of towns remained isolated. Lot of people lost their works. And the transportation (of goods and also people) is now basically by trucks and buses. Now the proyect of this government is to build the tren-bala (bullet-train?) -with all the conflict during last months they didn´t talk about it again, though-. The tren bala will cost a lot of money to build, the tickets will be elitists and it would only connect a few cities in the country. To try to re-activate the old ferrocarril would be a better and more necessary chance. The following site is about it, and about a group of people with a different propuesta that wants it to be listened.

See :

www.trenparatodos.com.ar

[mnaz]

I've never been a political sort, but these last few years have awakened my latent no-good longhair commie tendencies, I suppose... Ha! I agree, Arcadia. Less public money and sacrifice for elite concerns and more public money (or at least an end to the slashing) for public concerns.

[jimboloco]

i like the mapas
y tambien
i like the tren para todos
it would be great for turismo

really i am surprised that argentina has not the tren

too much like th usa!!!

[mtmynd]

If all the informacion es correcto, 'V', I'll vote para Tren para Todos, seguro! Demaciado dinero para un Tren Bala that goes to so few places. Su Presidente - cual quiere?

[Arcadia]

cecil: thanks for voting!!!!!! our president wants the bullet-train and talked with Sarkozy & friends for credit. I doubt she continues pulling that idea with the present debate about redistribution. But you never know exactly...

jimbo: the british constructed the ferrocarriles at the end of XIX century and beggining of the XX here because it was a good bussiness (we only sold grains and meat to them). They were thought to drain easily the goods to the ports of Santa Fe and Buenos Aires (the maps show that clearly). But then, towns and cities were constructed near the railways and the stations and the country was growing that way. Now only short privatizados tramos survived mostly in Buenos Aires. The ferrocarriles stations are now cultural centers (it´s better than to be junk deposits I guess). And yeah, it´s not Europe here!!!

mnaz: latent no-good longhair commie tendencies it sounds good!!!!!! thanks for reading!!!!

[Arcadia]

the million firmas were reached, now the proyect is in conditions to be consider in the Congress (no idea what will it happen! )

See:

http://www.lacapital.com.ar/contenidos/ ... _5590.html

[jimboloco]

before moved to florida, i lived five years in shreveport, louisiana. there was an old abandoned railroad station there that was turned into an art studios center, Artist's Transit. i hung there for awhile, but left town.

also there was a story written about argentina in the 1920's

Fabien is an airmail pilot of the Patagonia Mail. One night, he is lost while flying through a storm.

an aviator got lost in a storm
above the clouds
he couldn't land
and so flew into the night sky
the aerodrome master waiting for the landing that could not happen
his wife knowing too
the weather, the elements,
wind, sky, the clouds,
light and darkness,
and lights
beacons
shining up into a blanket
lights lost into the dense floating cover
night flight

i got it
in the collection of stories by
Antoine de Saint Exupéry
wind, sand, and stars

i think i'd take the tren
without instrument flight
in the soup

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[Arcadia]

yeah, St Ex was a mail-aviator-man here! (see the beautiful Bruno Ganz film, ex-aviator!!!! )

Solanas, the train & his new film:

http://www.lacapital.com.ar/contenidos/ ... _0019.html

[Arcadia]

more today-news about trains:

http://www.lacapital.com.ar/contenidos/ ... _0011.html

when these things happen I use to think: well, I would be the one who says... "let´s wait, give up anger a little, let´s talk with the authorities and the owners". Then, I reminded myself some months ago saying unnapropiated (totally non political correct things ) I never thought they belong to me to a disgusting photocopies employee near my age that didn´t gave me what I needed at that moment. Who knows....!!!!

[Arcadia]

here´s another article in pagina/12 about new Solana´s film. The title is "la hora de los trenes" (playing with "la hora de los hornos" documentary film about Che´s death) , "la pampa y la vía" (the last phrase in used here to point to a "nobody-nowhere´s land" or a "too far away and not well definited land"). I wonder, our new name for Utopia?

See:

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/suple ... 09-04.html

[Arcadia]

the government said today that there are photographic pruebas that in yesterday´s trains incidents there were militants of different left parties including people from "Proyecto Sur" (Solana´s -among others- party). Weird coincidence, no?

See:

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultim ... 09-05.html

Solanas´s answer:

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultim ... 09-05.html