hezbollah just found out. . .

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Post by jimboloco » July 30th, 2006, 12:37 am

well spoken
i got to diss on the dubya at work today
retiired cheif master seargeant (on his ball cap) usafcomes walking into the unit, visiting his wife, my patient,
there with grandsson
i catch a whiff of a thought
what exactly don't know
but
grandma patience's sister sayz
"these military recruiters all over the kid"
yeah that's it
so i jump in and say to th kid,
i wouldn'r join up until at least there's a diifferent president,then demurr,
"he's a chicken hawk,"
and say they ain't got no sense about how they are using th militarios
and sister says like, yeah they just gonna use you.
i tell th kid, better to go to college first.
i tell them it's all in your perspective, what you've seen
let's make some sense, and so forth

hezbollah ha ha
zionist ziggy zaggy
amerikana arkana

jesus where are you when we need you now,
along with dick gregory
and esther
and malcolm x
viva la creeping revolution
Si quieres la paz... lucha por ella
no puedo ir al zen dojo mañana
no puedo dormir
y mañana
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con mi esposa
until he is sent to the Hague in chains, the world will be at war, continuously, and bloodily.
well the folks at the hague need to call for the trial of these amerikan war moronz, i don't hear nobody calling for bush's ass to be dragged over there in chains, er, i mean except for those of us in less embarrassed circlez
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Post by stilltrucking » July 30th, 2006, 10:08 am

The only way some of the young ones are going to get to college is through the military. I used to like David Allan Coe a lot. but now he grates on me with his good old boy racism. But I like the lines from one of his songs called
if that ain't country I'll kiss your ass,
if that ain't country it will hair lip THe Pope,
my pappy bought this house on the GI bill,
but he said it was not worth
all he had to kill to get it.
e-dog I feel pretty silly this morning. Things must be desperate if we are talking about The Hague. :lol:

Carthago delenda est!

Where is Scipio Africanus when we need him.

Singlemalt It was nice of you to edit your racist remarks. I feel much better now. I saw a show about Carthage and Rome. According to genetic tests the Lebanonese people are descendents of the Carthaginians. Where is Cato when we need him? I say Jeruselam must be destroyed, Mecca must be destroyed, Las Vegas is going to be the spiritual capitol of the world.

Hezbollah arose out of the Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon. Sharon may he soon rest in peace turned his Lebanese Christian gunmen allies loose and hundreds were slaughtered. And this latest shit storm started a couple years ago when Sharon made a point of visiting the Temple Mount, That started this second Infatada. What ever happened to the peace makers in Israel? Where is Rabin and Sadat when we need them? Oh yeah. I sincerely believe we have the right man in office to bring about the end. The last time I checked gold was about seven hundred dollars an ounce. I keep faith with the Dow Jones which is climbing like a stairway to heaven. Relax everthing will be okay. Since the resurection we are all Jews now. For crying out loud, am I making too much sense.

Bring it on.

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Post by Arcadia » July 30th, 2006, 10:27 am

bye kids!. I have to cook now.

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Post by jimboloco » July 30th, 2006, 4:16 pm

actually Mecca is a jewel in the desert
I googled Saudi Arabia and scanned for Mecca,
it is situated in a cozy plaza at the edge of the mountains above the western coastal desert, sheltered in the arms of surrounding mountains,
sources for sure, of springs from underground streams
and haven for weary souls.

Islam 101, for dummies

idiot's guide to Islam
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Re: hezbollah just found out. . .

Post by mnaz » July 31st, 2006, 11:21 am

singlemalt wrote:that payback's a bitch.
Yeah.... Hezbollah, and various unrelated Lebanese children, and even a U.N. peacekeeper or two found out. Yeah. Serves 'em right, the whole lot of 'em. Bastards.

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Post by stilltrucking » July 31st, 2006, 1:27 pm

I been hearing a lot about a permanent peace, Rice don't want no temporary cease fire. She don't want to put a band aid over the problem. I can't help wondering what permanent peace looks like. I imagine a silent desert of glass.
Earlier, the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, expressed sorrow for the Qana attack but told Ms. Rice that Israel needed another 10 to 14 days to complete its war aims against Hezbollah, according to a senior Israeli official.
“We will not blink in front of Hezbollah and we will not stop the offensive despite the difficult circumstances,” Mr. Olmert told his cabinet on Sunday
“Israel is in no rush to reach a cease-fire before we get to that point where we could say that we reached the main objectives we had set forth,” he added. “This includes the ripening of the diplomatic process and preparing the multinational force.”
Osama Bin Laden got his inspiration of the Lebanon bombings in 1982. What ever happened to that guy. Just a has been these days. Nothing for us to worry about. No payback coming our way.

I am not angry, I am almost amused in some sick way. Not a mention of Palestine, they let that fester, they have democractic elections but don't like the results. All those Palestinian in those Lebanese refugee camps, why are they still there after forty years? That might be a good place to look for peace.

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Post by e_dog » July 31st, 2006, 10:09 pm

perpetual peace is a perpetual joke.

peace is to war what satisfaction is to sex. not Kant, but Mick Jagger was the better philosopher in his respectiv domain.

love the assinine rhetoric that Condi dishes out: we shouldn't have a ceasefire cause we want a lasting peace. (so, in the mean time, let's let war escalate . . . maybe that'll bring peace.)
i've long called for the indictment and prosecution of Bush as a war criminal. he's an enemy of international law and the US constitution.

Send Condi to the Hague too. she's a war criminal as being complicit in the whole imperial game. the US has no shortage of war criminals these days, rivalling the Vietnam golden age of imperial atrocities.

to love the American republic is to hate the american Empire and all its masters.

Why do some foreigners hate Bush? because they're smart. why don't more Americans hate him? because . . .

well, we know that over 60 percent disapprove. disapproval's fotr the weak. this regime is too evil to be merely disapproved. but is anyone keeping a "hatred" rating on Bush? he must be the most hated man in the world now, no? the most hated president since . . . the institution began.
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Post by stilltrucking » August 1st, 2006, 3:22 am

Not only the Fatah, but Arab leaders and media have unabashedly admitted that the refugee issue and right of return are being used as a means to destroy Israel. Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser told an interviewer on September 1, 1961: “If the refugees return to Israel, Israel will cease to exist.”
With the exception of Jordan, no country has allowed permanent resettlement of Palestinian refugees. Israel tried to do so in Gaza, but was forbidden to interfere with the camps by the UN. In April 2002, Israel destroyed much of the Jenin refugee camp in the West Bank as part of a retaliatory operation against suicide bombings. UN and other international efforts focus on rebuilding the camp. No organization has suggested resettling the refugees, though many have noted the impossible conditions within the camp.
The Palestine refugee population has been growing at the rate of over 100,000 per year. In Gaza, there were some 500,000 refugees in 1993, and there are well over a million today. In 1997, UNRWA listed about 3.3 million refugees. By 2002, there were over 3.9 million. Thus, even if Israel were to accept repatriation of refugees at the rate of 100,000 per year indefinitely, the number of refugees would continue to increase. The economic impact of this rate of absorption would be staggering. Israel would cease to be a Jewish state. Thus, the "right of return" would eliminate the Jewish right to self-determination.
http://www.mideastweb.org/refugees1.htm

There will be no peace as long as there are the refugees. I am not smart enough to figure it out. Bush is not hated by everyone. There are enough true believers to get Condi elected.

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Post by e_dog » August 1st, 2006, 10:04 am

i hope Condi gets the nomination. she'll be better than Frist.

one thing's for sure. the Dems will fuck up again, by choosing a quasi-Republican, such as the new Hillary Clinton or whoever.
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Post by jimboloco » August 1st, 2006, 8:36 pm

there was a recent column in the St Pete Times lauding Gore fro prez,
For 2008 election, Al Gore could be the real deal hoping for sanity somewhere.
Gore told Rolling Stone, "Right now we are borrowing huge amounts of money from China to buy huge amounts of oil from the most unstable region of the world, and to bring it here and burn it in ways that destroy the habitability of the planet. That is nuts! We have to change every aspect of that."

And I want a president who sees those massive reorderings as an essential priority - much more so than the permanent repeal of estate taxes for America's richest families or the protection of blastocysts in a petri dish.

this morning on Imus, some jerk telephone guest said, about Israel's air war on the Lebanese people, " if it was America's war, I suspect that we'd have done it in about the same way," regarding the massive air onslaught followed by an intensive ground campaign.

He was not speaking for me. i am hoping for some sanity.
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Post by jimboloco » August 1st, 2006, 8:53 pm

STOP THE KILLING! CEASE-FIRE NOW!

Veterans For Peace Statement on the Fighting in Lebanon-Gaza-Israel

After 2 Israeli soldiers were captured in a July 12 border raid by Hezbollah guerillas, the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) response has been a massive air and land assault and sea blockade against the whole country and people of Lebanon.

The human costs have been overwhelming. At this writing, 542 people, mainly civilians, are confirmed dead and Lebanon’s health minister estimates the number killed to be over 750, including those bodies not yet recovered. More than 750,000 Lebanese citizens have been forced to flee their homes as refugees.

In retaliation, Hezbollah fighters have been firing rockets at cities in northern Israel and ground combat is taking place in southern Lebanon. So far 33 Israeli soldiers have died in fighting and 18 civilians have lost their lives from rocket attacks. The number of wounded on both sides remains unknown.

Veterans For Peace universally condemns the targeting of civilians by both sides and calls for an IMMEDIATE CEASE-FIRE and for negotiations involving all concerned parties to resolve all border disputes and prisoner release issues and to establish a secure, demilitarized border between the two countries.

However we cannot ignore the unjustified and totally disproportionate use of force and violence by the IDF. The Hezbollah incursion was a provocation but the massive Israeli response is nothing less than full-scale aggression against the entire Lebanese people.

Israeli attacks have taken place against airports, roads and bridges, communication, power, oil storage and other basic infrastructure facilities throughout the country as well as residential areas in major cities. The entire population of southern Lebanon has been ordered to leave the area as it is being turned into a “free fire zone”.

As this offensive is taking place, the IDF is continuing their “second front” attacks against the Palestinian people in Gaza, targeting elected officials, government institutions, villages and refugee camps in their hunt for “terrorists”.

As US citizens we find it shameful that, for the first time in our history, our government has refused to call for an end to hostilities and continues to openly fan the flames of war. Secretary of State Rice has repeatedly said that it is “too early” to stop the killing. The Pentagon has rushed new shipments of laser and satellite guided bombs to the Israel to continue their assault. Both Houses of Congress voted overwhelmingly to support Israel’s war.

It is no wonder that the United States is being condemned in the Middle East and throughout the world as an accomplice to aggression.

This is the wrong direction that the Bush administration has taken our country. What is happening in Lebanon cannot be separated from the illegal and unjust invasion and occupation of Iraq. Believing that “war is the answer” they have encouraged and abetted others to follow that same bloody course.

As a result, the flames of death and destruction are raging even higher in the Middle East today. In spite of ringing rhetoric from the White House about “creating a new, democratic Middle East”, US and Israeli military actions are only creating more pain, anger and resistance.

It is the time for the United States to change course and the first step is to support an immediate cease-fire and an end to the killing.

July 31, 2006


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Post by stilltrucking » August 2nd, 2006, 5:11 am

I can say the gates of hell have been opened on Lebanon," Lebanon's Prime Minister Fouad Saniora told CNN.
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"There are no keys to the gates of hell. The doors are always open."

Thank you Syria for being such a god dam excellent gate keeper. Thank you Israel for being so f*cking special. Thank you USA for being such a great Christian Nation.

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Post by Arcadia » August 2nd, 2006, 1:15 pm

"peace is to war what satisfaction is to sex. not Kant, but Mick Jagger was the better philosopher in his respectiv domain." Well, I didn't read Kant but I listened to Mick Jagger and sometimes I also sang along with him. Analogies could be swindling (what a word!) things.

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Post by firsty » August 2nd, 2006, 1:19 pm

for kids included, payback is, indeed, a bitch.

http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk07312006.html

How Can We Stand By and Allow This to Go On?

By ROBERT FISK

They wrote the names of the dead children on their plastic shrouds. " Mehdi Hashem, aged seven Qana," was written in felt pen on the bag in which the little boy's body lay. "Hussein al-Mohamed, aged 12 Qana", "Abbas al-Shalhoub, aged one Qana.'' And when the Lebanese soldier went to pick up Abbas's little body, it bounced on his shoulder as the boy might have done on his father's shoulder on Saturday. In all, there were 56 corpses brought to the Tyre government hospital and other surgeries, and 34 of them were children. When they ran out of plastic bags, they wrapped the small corpses in carpets. Their hair was matted with dust, most had blood running from their noses.

You must have a heart of stone not to feel the outrage that those of us watching this experienced yesterday. This slaughter was an obscenity, an atrocity yes, if the Israeli air force truly bombs with the "pinpoint accuracy" it claims, this was also a war crime. Israel claimed that missiles had been fired by Hizbollah gunmen from the south Lebanese town of Qana as if that justified this massacre. Israel's Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, talked about "Muslim terror" threatening " western civilisation" as if the Hizbollah had killed all these poor people.

And in Qana, of all places. For only 10 years ago, this was the scene of another Israeli massacre, the slaughter of 106 Lebanese refugees by an Israeli artillery battery as they sheltered in a UN base in the town. More than half of those 106 were children. Israel later said it had no live-time pilotless photo-reconnaissance aircraft over the scene of that killing -- a statement that turned out to be untrue when The Independent discovered videotape showing just such an aircraft over the burning camp. It is as if Qana, whose inhabitants claim that this was the village in which Jesus turned water into wine, has been damned by the world, doomed forever to receive tragedy.

And there was no doubt of the missile which killed all those children yesterday. It came from the United States, and upon a fragment of it was written: "For use on MK-84 Guided Bomb BSU-37-B". No doubt the manufacturers can call it "combat-proven" because it destroyed the entire three-storey house in which the Shalhoub and Hashim families lived. They had taken refuge in the basement from an enormous Israeli bombardment, and that is where most of them died.

I found Nejwah Shalhoub lying in the government hospital in Tyre, her jaw and face bandaged. She did not weep, nor did she scream, although the pain was written on her face. Her brother Taisir, who was 46, had been killed. So had her sister Najla. So had her little niece Zeinab, who was just six. "We were in the basement hiding when the bomb exploded at one o'clock in the morning,'' she said. "What in the name of God have we done to deserve this? So many of the dead are children, the old, women. Some of the children were still awake and playing. Why does the world do this to us?"

Yesterday's deaths brought to more than 500 the total civilian dead in Lebanon since Israel's air, sea and land bombardment of the country began on July 12 after Hizbollah members crossed the frontier wire, killed three Israeli soldiers and captured two others. But yesterday's slaughter ended more than a year of mutual antagonism within the Lebanese government as pro-American and pro-Syrian politicians denounced what they described as " an ugly crime".

Thousands of protesters attacked the largest United Nations building in Beirut, screaming: "Destroy Tel Aviv, destroy Tel Aviv," and Lebanon's Prime Minister, the normally unflappable Fouad Siniora, called US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and ordered her to cancel her imminent peace-making trip to Beirut.

No one in this country can forget how President George Bush, Ms Rice, and Tony Blair have repeatedly refused to call for an immediate ceasefire, a truce that would have saved all those lives yesterday. Ms Rice would say only: "We want a ceasefire as soon as possible,'' a remark followed by an Israeli announcement that it intended to maintain its bombardment of Lebanon for at least another two weeks.

Throughout the day, Qana villagers and civil defence workers dug through the ruins of the building with spades and with their hands, tearing at the muck until they found one body after another still dressed in colorful clothes. In one section of the rubble, they found what was left of a single room with 18 bodies inside. Twelve of the dead were women. All across southern Lebanon now, you find scenes like this, not so grotesque in scale, perhaps, but just as terrible, for the people of these villages are terrified to leave and terrified to stay. The Israelis had dropped leaflets over Qana, ordering its people to leave their homes. Yet twice now since Israel's onslaught began, the Israelis have ordered villagers to leave their houses and then attacked them with aircraft as they obeyed the Israeli instructions and fled. There are at least 3,000 Shia Muslims trapped in villages between Qlaya and Aiteroun close to the scene of Israel's last military incursion at Bint Jbeil and yet none of them can leave without fear of dying on the roads.

And Mr Olmert's reaction? After expressing his "great sorrow", he announced that: "We will not stop this battle, despite the difficult incidents [sic] this morning. We will continue the activity, and if necessary it will be broadened without hesitation." But how much further can it be broadened? Lebanon's infrastructure is being steadily torn to pieces, its villages razed, its people more and more terrorized and terror is the word they used by Israel's American-made fighter bombers. Israel's savagery against the civilian population has deeply shocked not only the Western diplomats who have remained in Beirut, but hundreds of humanitarian workers from the Red Cross and major aid agencies.

Incredibly, Israel yesterday denied safe passage to a UN World Food Program aid convoy en route to the south, a six-truck mission that should have taken relief supplies to the south-eastern town of Marjayoun. More than three quarters of a million Lebanese have now fled their homes, but there is still no accurate figure for the total number still trapped in the south. Khalil Shalhoub, who survived amid the wreckage in Qana yesterday, said that his family and the Hashims were just too "terrified" to take the road out of the village, which has been attacked by aircraft for more than two weeks. The seven-mile highway between Qana and Tyre is littered with civilian homes in ruins and burnt-out family cars. On Thursday, the Israeli Army's Al-Mashriq radio, which broadcasts into southern Lebanon, told residents that their villages would be "totally destroyed" if missiles were fired from them. But anyone who has watched Israel's bombing these past two weeks knows that, in many cases, the Israelis do not know the location in which the Hizbollah are firing missiles, and when they do they frequently miss their targets. How can a villager prevent the Hizbollah from firing rockets from his street? The Hizbollah do take cover beside civilian houses just as Israeli troops entering Bint Jbeil last week also used civilian homes for cover. But can this be the excuse for slaughter on such a scale?

Mr Siniora addressed foreign diplomats in Beirut yesterday, telling them that the government in Beirut was now only demanding an immediate ceasefire and was not interested any longer in a political package to go with it. Needless to say, Mr Jeffrey Feltman, whose country made the bomb which killed the innocents of Qana yesterday, chose not to attend.

Robert Fisk is a reporter for The Independent and author of Pity the Nation. He is also a contributor to CounterPunch's collection, The Politics of Anti-Semitism. Fisk's new book is The Conquest of the Middle East.

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Post by jimboloco » August 2nd, 2006, 4:24 pm

yes indeed, all of them special precious jewels, the children victims of air war bombings

and so blithely written off by the Israeli defense Forces as the fault of Hezbollah because they are using civilians as human shields.

Hey, at least they told Condi she was not welcome to return to Lebanon.\
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