be right barack

[hester_prynne]

I say look baby, get ready for a brand new comfort zone.
(It's fun, readin you squealers, afraid of change.)
Hell, for a gypsy like me, yeah you're right Obama is the ONE.
Hope for from nothin to somethin, for a voice that's heard and not just used.
Time for more guts and less foaming at the mouths darlings.
Like he says, "Change doesn't start from the top down, it starts from the bottom up". You know it's true.
Buck up. The bottom ain't so bad when you feel like you have a chance to go up....
And if you don't understand what i'm saying then you need to work on losing some of your baby fat.

H

[Totenkopf]

Here’s a quote from Obama from a few months ago, when he started insisting Dems must court “evangelicals”:

“Secularists are wrong when they ask believers to leave their religion at the door before entering the public square.”

Can ah, ah get a witness? Perhaps Mr. Obama missed a few lectures at Haw-vawwd, like those touching on the secular principles of Madison and Jefferson.

[e_dog]

Or, maybe, he just learnd a thing or two from MLK, Jr.?


Or the Latin American Catholic priests fighting against the capitalist-oligarchical oppressors?
(Arcadia, help me out here! Name some names.)

And notwithstanding revisionism by the Hitchenistas, T.J. was a biblethumper in his Dec. O' Indy in which he claims that, like, God created men and America.

Or do you prefer the designation, Hitchensians?

[Totenkopf]

Yawn. Give me yr tired and poor, Rev. e!

You're an insult not only to Ezra Pound and TSE, but to Kant, Hume, &Co, the irish gents who founded the states, if not the jacobins. I doubt even Karl Marx, no big-eyed liberal sentimentalist, would support Rev. BO, praiser of Reagan, entrepreneurship, and xtian fundamentalism.

[e_dog]

see below.

[e_dog]

I, for one, do not support Obama.

I've said it before an i'll sayit agin:

VOTE HUCKABEE!


Obama is a danger to democracy b/c he puts forth te image of a good president-- a contradiction in terms like a "benevolent despot".

But the reasons you shouldn't vote for Obama isn't that he Xtian bUt rather tht hes a Democrat, and they are a party of traitors afgainst democracy, and above all that he's a capitalist.

The reasons you should vote for Huckabee is that he's crazy as a loon. And that will show the system to be the farce it is, already but easily ignored if friendly-faced Obama or happy-pill Hillary, or patriotic hero John McCain, gets electd.

ENDPIRE. ANARCHIE.

[Arcadia]

most people here think something like "yankies are yankies not matter who is the president" that translated it would be "Obama as a president is not equal to real change". Maybe. Maybe not.

Or the Latin American Catholic priests fighting against the capitalist-oligarchical oppressors?

e-dog: Leonardo Boff, Frei Betto, Obispo Angelelli, Obispo Romero, Camilo Torres, padre Mugica, padre Montaldo (the last one alive and living in Rosario) among a lot more not known by me.

I didn´t listen Obama speaking yet. He´s still a face without a voice for me. I´ll try to google something when I have time.

[hester_prynne]

I don't get it.
I mean, if you want to talk about evangelicals who the hell you think voted for our current admin?

I don't see that Obama is so Reverend...I see that as more of a stereo typing. If you really listen or read what he says he says that whatever your religion is, it is and so be it. Take it outside with you! It's yours and yours alone....whatever you believe. I like the sound of that....I get tired of those who feel they are somehow better than me because of what they believe....

And these accusations of stealing words...they all do it. The last bit of Hillary's on last week's debate? Verbatim words of her husband and of Edwards. I can prove that, there are videos all over of it.

She's all over the map with other people's words but its ok for her to do that, because she's Hillary and he's Obama..so shame on him?

This is exactly the mindset that is currently in operation in our government!

And what's all this stuff about Ezra and TSE? I"m sure they'd both be voting for Obama. It's a no brainer!

I am curious toty, because I truly admire your intelligence. Could you explain to me a little more clearly, what your objections are to Obama, who you are in favor of, and why? I mean, I know I am communicating strong feelings in favor of a candidate but I also have an open mind that is available for enlightenment. I just am not getting it....
I need you to be more elementary so to speak, so that I can understand what your points are.
Thanks
H

By the way, read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opini ... sq=&st=nyt

[Arcadia]

I did my homework!!! I listened/saw some Obama´s videos via youtube. I like his voice!!!!!! He seems unable to unspectably bite you. I don´t see (too much at least) anger or violence in him. He has a union discourse. It reminds me somehow president Alfonsin in the eighties saying "with the democracy it´s possible to eat, cure & educate". If I were you I´ll vote him.
Here´s a compilado (no idea about by whom) from youtube. At the end of the video there is an ambigous image (you don´t know if it´s the end of the video or the end of the tunnel...). But comparing him with acid-acid Hillary... no doubt!.

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[Totenkopf]

And what's all this stuff about Ezra and TSE? I"m sure they'd both be voting for Obama. It's a no brainer!

Nyet. There's this misconception among many literary people (or wannabe-lit people) that great writers (and intellectuals) were all sympathetic to the left and marxism. They weren't (and aren't). I suggest you read a few of Pound's essays. EP's quite machiavellian (and conservative) in ways.

It's a free country, sort of, and I respect your right to campaign for BO and vote for him, but his agenda is not in the best interest of many of us.
So you should respect the right of non-Obama supporters.
Ah agree also with e-frog to some extent that Obama generally appears as corporate friendly as Hilll (I would aver, slightly more friendly). Hill at least has a few New Deal bones: that said, even Colonel McCain (yeah a bit of a dinosaur) might have a few more than does BO.

[stilltrucking]

strange
how
you hardly ever hear any one called a right wing intellectual.

As if there are only left wing intellectuals.

[e_dog]

rightwing intel. is an oxymoron.

like smart republican.

or courageous democrat.

or madame president.

[Arcadia]

Imagine if the state gives to each party an equal ammount of money to do their campaigns, and that private-money would not be allowed in them. Something like, well be enough creative with this!!!!!!!!! I understand why not some left parties choose not to go to elections or not to vote in called "democratic countries".

some words I found in opposition discourses used against Obama: Rezko, sweetheart deals and Kumbaya. Curious. Rezko and the syrian-link remainded me a bit to a mix of Al Kassar and valijas from Venezuela, but it´s quite probably that it has nothing to do with that It´s true that maybe Obama as a whole is too much, at moments it looks like a heavy joke for some...And it seems everybody is pointing to Obama what they are fully themselves. So, good luck!

[e_dog]

no idea what your talking about in jargon arcadia.

it's a shame that a woman cannot be president.

Hillary's on the ropes. even tim russert is attacking her now.

Learn to say, President Barak, everybody.

'Cause Obama's gonna win.

[hester_prynne]

Please note that I do respect those with different candidate votes, I never meant to imply in my posts that I didnt' so pardon me if I did.

I"m sorry that Obama doesn't work for some of you, perhaps your lives havent' been as hopeless as mine. He does give me a sense of possibility that I have lost because he seems to speak with a real insight into what it is like for most Americans, especially women going it alone and taking on the burden of children alone. I mean, I'm living in a small town, I have a roomate because the job I have does not afford me enough for the current rates of rent, yet I work like a dog. I can't even afford to live with my daughter now. It's devastating. I try and try and am trying now.

Some may want to blow me off and say it's my fault but I beg to differ with you. It is not. I've been in better situations, but in the last eight years I have lost so much through no fault of my own it makes my head spin.
I feel strongly that Obama is the only candidate who sees this trend, who has seen it in the last 10 years, and the huge amount of people who are being affected. I don't see that Hillary Clinton or John McCain see this, and if they did I don't think they would acknowledge it due to too many risks of insider favors. They want to have plenty of poor and struggling people, so that they can rule and be unfair and we can't do anything about except watch our levels of suffering increase under their vapid rule.
The housing mess, the value of the dollar, the whole mess has not just happened folks, it's been happening for the past 10 years and has finally come to a head where it's plain to see we need to do something about it.
I think Obama is more aware of this reality than anyone who has tried to run, or is running now. Dodd, seems to get it too.
And that's just how I feel. And one of the many reasons I am campaigning, and an alternate delegate for Obama here in my local area.
I think he will help me and the millions like me.
Hillarys mandatory health plan scares the crap out of me because I will be one of the ones unable to afford it, and i'll be penalized for it. SHe'll garnish my wages, because she does not have a clue as to what people can really afford and the mandates will be too high, I guarentee it. I can afford about 25 bucks a month, if that. I think Obama understands this.
It's of great relief to me that he does.
But please, vote on who works for you and i'm sorry if i'm being too verbal here in my support for Obama. I will tone it down.
H