The post nation-state world

What in the world is going on?
User avatar
Arcadia
Posts: 7964
Joined: August 22nd, 2004, 6:20 pm
Location: Rosario

Post by Arcadia » March 9th, 2010, 9:34 pm

Your link was in Spanish, and regrettably I understand (?’abla’) none of it.

Probably good that I didn’t listen to all of the video, since he doesn’t seem to get anything right.

:lol: it´s ok, NS! (in the Elementary school´s calification scale of our country: Not Satisfactory), at least you tried! :wink:

Non Sum

Post by Non Sum » March 9th, 2010, 10:46 pm

Gracias for your gracia, Arcadia. :)

In my Massachusetts elementary school, when we weren't learning how to burn brujas, we were taught the 'Mexican Hat Dance' in lieu of the Mexican language. You'll be pleased to know that I was more than "satisfactory" in dancing the dance.

But, who needs Spanish, anyway :idea:
Whenever I visited Old Mexico, all that was required to break any language barrier was simply to beautifully dance that classic dance, while holding a (thornless) rose in my mouth. The good folk of Mexico even gave me a special name of endearment, which I've yet to get around to translating literally. I just assumed it meant "terrific dancing dude!" Perhaps, you can help me with that? It sounded like, "muy loco gringo!" :D

NS (Nicht Sprechen)

User avatar
Arcadia
Posts: 7964
Joined: August 22nd, 2004, 6:20 pm
Location: Rosario

Post by Arcadia » March 10th, 2010, 6:09 pm

Gracias for your gracia, Arcadia
de nada, NS, gracias for your plurals! :)

when we weren't learning how to burn brujas, ... oh, I see!... a a MIT student near Salem?

But, who needs Spanish, anyway ... me, of course!. But we share latin for the emergencies and I also have fun with italian and english.. :lol:

"terrific dancing dude!" well, no idea what was really going on in their mexican minds, who knows! enjoy the english translation, por las dudas! :wink:

User avatar
stilltrucking
Posts: 20651
Joined: October 24th, 2004, 12:29 pm
Location: Oz or somepLace like Kansas

Post by stilltrucking » March 13th, 2010, 1:31 pm

You ever listen to Firesign Theater in your younger days?
The U.S. Government has merged with TMZ General Corp., manufacturers of zinc bushings
I am reassured every time the Dow Jones Industrial Average hits a new high.
All is for the best
and Like Oedipus at Colonus I will one day stand before my grave and say all is well.

sincerely
just another tree hugger

Non Sum

Post by Non Sum » March 14th, 2010, 1:03 pm

ST: You ever listen to Firesign Theater in your younger days?

NS: Sure. I was a big fan, and what stoner wasn't? I liked the way they would walk over to the flip side of the record. I believe one of their albums was called: "Don't Crush that Dwarf; Pass Me the Plyers." I think their first was: "Everything You Know is Wrong," (a title to live by, no?)

St: I am reassured every time the Dow Jones Industrial Average hits a new high.

NS: Would I be correct in assuming 'irony'?

ST: All is for the best
and Like Oedipus at Colonus I will one day stand before my grave and say all is well.

NS: That's the spirit! :D
Mayhaps, that is why you are so persistently 'still trucking'?

ST: just another tree hugger

NS: Best done before the sap flows, but after caterpillar season, and never right after the dog has lifted his leg on it.
NS (Nocturnal Sunshine)

User avatar
hester_prynne
Posts: 2363
Joined: June 26th, 2006, 12:35 am
Location: Seattle, Washington
Contact:

Post by hester_prynne » March 14th, 2010, 4:06 pm

I'm not inclined to NS's suggestion of a worldwide corporation w/o government, I think i'm too jaded at this point to see that idea as anything but a starry idealistic lovely notion.

On the other hand, I do see everyday alot of government wastage and tomfoolery. The shoulders government were ideally supposed to provide for all in the name of justice, have become privatized, favoritist, and possession crazed. Side bets, payoffs, or you'll get yours nonsense.

I grind out my hours, enjoy the money and time off I get for it.
I don't let myself think about how many people are making way more than I am for doing less.
It seems the best I can do is maintain minimal involvement in gov. (corp), organizations.

H 8)
"I am a victim of society, and, an entertainer"........DW

Non Sum

Post by Non Sum » March 14th, 2010, 10:04 pm

Hi Hester,
You are probably right about it being "idealistic," but why come up with a design that is less than an ideal one. The realities of life, and human nature, will take care of making any system far from ideal. So, no need to incorporate that part in the initial design. :wink:

I'm sure you're right about the sorry realities of our present government. Like Jefferson, I'm sure any government eventually turns sour and rotten. That is why I'm after something more direct between a society and its social needs. I'm after a democratic process that does not require a fixed governmental institution, placed between the citizenry and its requirements, to get things done.

HP: I don't let myself think about how many people are making way more than I am for doing less.

NS: As you shouldn't. Quality of life isn't about income and stuff you own. If it were, Richard Corey (Simon and Garfunkle song) wouldn't have put a bullet in his head.

To paraphase the Alman Brothers, 'have an orange.'

Post Reply

Return to “Culture, Politics, Philosophy”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests