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Post by stilltrucking » July 19th, 2006, 11:24 am

Firsty the Jews are special. A nation set apart. This is biblical land. Promised to the Jews by Gawd all mighty herself. Every chistian mega church has its pet rabbi telling them stick with israel and everything will be fine. I don't think I am the only jew in the us who is very uncomfortable with new alliance between the wacko preachers, rabbi's and priests. Hey come on down to san antone, you can still make it to Pastor Jim Haggee's honor Israel night. Brain washed R us. Christian Zombies marching as to the voting polls and to a holy war, now make the sign of the Holy Dollar$$$$$$. Who is john galt and where is anne ryand when we need her :roll:

On an unrelated note, the electoral college will be the end of us. 18,000 member churches all over the country in ever city and state, get out the vote, divide and conquer.

Singlemelt/knip I am a happy drunk, and I am sure drunk this morning.
FYI here is a picture of the Liberty. As you can see with all those antenae and the ariabic writting on her bow it would be easy to mistake her for an egyptian cattle ship.
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Post by jimboloco » July 19th, 2006, 12:02 pm

Fullmetal jacket did get the essense of absurdness
with th Marines marching and singing the Mickey Mouse Club song
but when Platoon came out, it was an intense experience for Vietnam veterans who went there en masse with their families and cried and heavedand said things like,
"that paranoid seargent who hid beneath the bodies sucks," etc, a true quote from my group therapy sesshin which we were into when platoon came out ciirca 1985, Shreveport, the Bossier City cinema, packed and intense,
and when Born on th 4th of July came out, it was my homecoming
deeply felt
where as Stanley's works were appealing in an anti-aesthetic sort of way
no comparison, interms of human deep penetrating affect,
and Oliver's third film in the trilogy can't remember th name,
was for the Vietnamese themselves
anyhow
I know about the Zionist vision
and mercy
manifest destiniers abound all over the world
and Christian zombies of xourse which is worse in my Book
where is Esther when we need her?

I am glad that singlemAlt has stArted this scroll
I mean when he said
payback's abbitch
mercy
it certainly encouraged my response
and I have been into this thread a lot over the last what three days
and hey
even Hank Williams sang "an th center of th world aint th dixie chicks an th center of th world aint hank williams," :P
so
I am in exile from my paternal side of the family as they are a bunch of ultra-conservatives in Bible belt north Lousyanna
but
they don't own the world, altho they might own the country's power base
and good old Hillary is scoring her points right now telling Israel it got the right to do "whatever" mercy, killing a five year old girl in a field in Lebanon or as fast as cold calculated cold blood killing, can kill, well
the psychodynamics of rage are telling,
just look into the kiling fields. look deeply into your hearts.
I have helped to kill, and have seen direct killing, mercy
people suck, man. So lets all just get good and pissed and tell each other off and get it on. Let's send word missiles into chicago and get mAltyman and lets send plagues of duststorms into texass and get Mextextruckermon, and hey the next hurricaine iz gonna trash Tampa Bay, so what, I love destruction, and who cares if Judih lives or dies? Really, there is a point at which some inflammatory language is appropriate and I think that mAltezeman's initial point of darkness did fit th bill, no harm done in electrifying a debate,
but hey, I still love Knip, who couldn't, yet he stirrs my coffeepot and I know he has the keys to an enlightened military-political encompassing vision if only he'd unlock th doors of perception, and he is on that path, and won't stop growing even after he becomes the first Canadian beatnick Admiral. :mrgreen: and a Canadian veteran for peace

Arcadia, I think tthat your article is about the same kind of process, where a rubber-stamp congress allows the president or executive, to do as he pleases. Need to re read this. Gracias Amiga, voy a leerlo, Yo te prometo.

ST, I admire your anger, succintly o, but I disagree with your evaluation of Ollie versus Stanly. also am not as rampant an anti-Zionist as you.
a moment of fresh aire anyone?

Actually there was an incident where n Israeli ship was offthe coast of lebanon and it got hit with a Hezbollah missile awhile back,
but anything named Liberty I don't trust s the word is badly maligned,
Liberty College in Virginia, Jerry Fallwell's college for right wing Xtians, and every time I hear Bush say "liberty" it makes me puke,
but "liberation", now there's a word for pauze, youze
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Post by stilltrucking » July 19th, 2006, 12:18 pm

it is your anger jimboloco
don't think I am angry
If I am it has nothing to with this.

Yeah platoon you see you got this here good soldier and then there is this bad soldier. Just like Iraq. In the novel short timers it is not so easy to tell good from bad. there it is.

Fresh air yes. God is dead, esjpecialy that mighty smighty hebrew god. A new deal for the goyim.

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Post by jimboloco » July 19th, 2006, 12:24 pm

am I a Goy?
god ain't dead, man
the five year old girl is dead.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl? ... 19/1345246

nice to hear fromgeorge mcGovern again he is 83 today
George flew bombers in WW2
was against the bombing in Vietnam War
and had a few words for the current regime in America.

When are we as a nation gonna start making sense?
Meanwhile, I am praying a prayer non-directed, just praying,
praying with Islam praying with Judiasm, praying with Sister Anne, my friend in Tampa with pax christi,
praying with all the Buddhist practitioners since history began,
meanwhile, pissed because we have such a stupid dumbass president and stupid dumbass people who voted hor him,
Christians United for Israel has nada to do with compassion,
the God of david smites the enemy
only it ain't no battlefield,
it is a slaughterhouse of innocents
and the real America is disempowered
and ideology reigns
over reason, prescience, and truth.
No gay marraige, no stem cell research, hate all Arabs.

Chrizt man
what is the point?
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Post by stilltrucking » July 19th, 2006, 12:38 pm

No G*d is not dead
Of course not
G*d is on our side.

It is god but not as we know it.

If six was nine

It is such a lovely war.

Tell me a story about the Holy Land
Where Jesus preached to the Jews

What's the point?
Fuck if I know
Just a debate that means nothing to me
Ask knip.
I am out of this
Not a debate I am interested in
Just passing through

adios 8)
It will all work out ok
Cause one way or another we are all dead
But life is beautiful
fuck this shit.
I don't know nothing
I don't know that payback is a bitch
I am just a happy drunk
any minute I will start slurring my typing
like surfermike.

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Post by the flaming ace » July 19th, 2006, 1:04 pm

where is dick gregory when we need him
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Post by MrGuilty » July 19th, 2006, 1:06 pm

You got to love those Buddhists, 8)

This about how I feel about G*d Ace

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Post by e_dog » July 19th, 2006, 4:57 pm

what does the Liberty ship have to do with anything here?

it has nothing to with anyting as far as i can tell, other than indicate how delusional is Tony Blair and whoever else has piously called for "international peacekeepers" to establish a ceasefire!

Israel hasn't attacked anybody, any more than "America" invaded Iraq. their militaries did, and their governmental leadership did, but not the people. in fact, there's probably substantial opposition in Israel right now to what's happening, only it will not be shown on American TV and newspapers, of course.

when people equate a whole country or nation with the actions taken on its behalf, which is the standard parlance of international diplomacy, Shakespeare, and CNN, we end up with irrational nationalistic and jingoistic mentalities outpacing reason.

to be pro-Israel is to criticize its aggression against civilians, just as to be an American patriot is to oppose Bush's jihad in Iraq, Afganistan and in the "homeland".

btw, singlemalt, all rightwing positions are false. thats what it is to be a rightwing political position. but i agree that not all liberal positions are correct. only the Left is infallible.

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Post by Arcadia » July 19th, 2006, 5:58 pm

Sorry I can't explain the link, I had to leave to buy the friend's day gifts.
Yesterday there was an acto in conmemoration of the 85 persons who died in 1994 in the AMIA atentado. They want justice (to know who did the atentado, prison for the terrorists and to cut the relations with Iran). It seems that in the acto there were critics about what is doing the actual gov about it. Mr. K was in Paraguay yesterday and today when he knew about the critics he spread some tears/time and said things like: "I won't lie, entertain or invent trials or guilties", "search in the caves (?) for the ones that have the responsability for the impunidad..."

jimbo: I was visiting your buddhist links. Three sittings in the same morning of 35 minutes each one...!!! I don't know yet how can I do two.
judih: hugs and kisses for you, friend.
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Post by Arcadia » July 19th, 2006, 5:59 pm

only the Left is infallible... wow, that's faith!!!!!!!

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Post by e_dog » July 19th, 2006, 6:24 pm

the caveat is: when the Left becomes perverted, this automatically means it has become infected with right-wing tendencies (Stalinism, etc.).

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Post by Arcadia » July 19th, 2006, 6:52 pm

wow..! that's easy!!!!!

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Post by firsty » July 19th, 2006, 9:21 pm

Israel hasn't attacked anybody, any more than "America" invaded Iraq. their militaries did, and their governmental leadership did, but not the people. in fact, there's probably substantial opposition in Israel right now to what's happening, only it will not be shown on American TV and newspapers, of course.
numbers i heard yesterday were around 60% of israelis in support of the current tactics. and little children writing notes on bombs represents a pretty deep commitment to the attacks on the part of the people.

maybe the stats are wrong, who knows. maybe it's the media bias. it's easy to call possible opposition "substantial," because it doesnt really mean anything. i think it's clear that a majority of israelis are not in opposition to the current war.
and knowing i'm so eager to fight cant make letting me in any easier.

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Post by e_dog » July 19th, 2006, 10:52 pm

substantial means worthy of being recognized as real. let's say (totally arbitrarily) at least five percent. the point is -- not unanimous. any effect of the "people" supporting anything is a tribute to propaganda. the people are always, regrettably, a mass to be manipulated by power. i don't know the source or methodology of the poll you quote. in anlmost all significant military engagements a (contingently) powerful support, a minor oppose explicitly, and the rest (perhaps a majority) are largely indifferent, just wanting not to die. i doubt israel is any different than this.

anyway numbers are just for diagnostic purposes. majorities dont deteremine truth, just reveal the damagew done to public opinion by the manipulators, i.e. challenges to be overcome by the truth, i.e. by the workof revolutionary justice.

i don't know what children painting have to do with anything other than the capacity of a very few adults to be extremely, sickly, militaristic.

See "Why we fight" referred to at the Film forum on this site, for a presenytation of an American man who had the US military inscribe his dead son's name on a bomb to be used in Iraq. that practice was, i think, originated in WWII by Americans. Why not, though? it at least acknowledges symbolic responsibility for the attrocityies. i say put U.S. commanders' names on every bomb and missle they shoot, since they is the commander.



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Post by jimboloco » July 20th, 2006, 9:19 pm

mercy
in america you'll get lots to eat
buckwheat pancakes and a piece of meat
sail away
from the viewpoint of peoples outside of th USofA
this country's policies are a measure of the national intent
and the opposition is really disempowered
so what makes the news
and so what have we the leftist opposition gotta do?
speak truth to power
but also have communities an alternative networking
for news, culture, sensivity,
at least keep the alternative cultural force strong until such time as it gains an influence onto the mainstream
viva mexico
th socialist mayor of mexico city almost won the presidency
lost to th dunce
what happened to those ballots?
but they got community and they are a force south of the border down mexico way
south of san antone

i mentioned ya'all not by name
but had a call-in recorded today on this link in the archives of wmnf tampa bay
http://www.wmnf.org/programming/archives.php
go to Thursday, July 20, 2006
:idea: Radioactivity: Live Call-in
click on the "speaker" to the left
it's the beginning of the radioactivity show at 1 pm and rob plays the call-ins from the previous day's show, you'll have to scroll across the "clip position' to 4:45, as the end of the democracy Now show is tailed onto the front of the clip. there are some very interesting call ins about the show the prior day, Wednesday, July 19, 2006 :idea: Radioactivity: Live Call-in
with local Jewesh activists and another in northern Israel via telephone. There was a decent debate, but these guys had some time to make their points. and the next dayThursday the call-backs really debated them, altho there were pro-israeli nationalists views expressed, there were also two jewesh folks who called in and said they did not identify with the hard line militarism, i jimboloco also got into the tape right after this Jewish woman spoke shalom, salaam at the 13:14 mark, if ya wanna go to that effort.
but i would sincerely urge you to listen to the call-ins on thursday.
the strength of some of the callers is good to hear, it gives me hope that the community in diversity is alive and well

this board got me up for it and i got it out on the airwaves.
back at work in the jewel mine in th morning
turning in
yeah
if Israel can do "collective punishment" to the Lebanese,
then what's to stop the whole world from going mad?

the kids in lebanon painted chalk murals of the bombings
exact another guernica same as the drawings done by kids on the Plain of Jars in Laos, exact

i got that dvd "why we fight"
sent to me by a quaker fellow
watched it once
it's about the military-industrial complex gone awry
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