Great speech by Bush to the VFW yesterday

[stilltrucking]

Did you know that millions of people died because we pulled out of Vietnam without getting the job done? It is an amazing speech. Truly amazing.

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
August 22, 2007

President Bush Attends Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention, Discusses War on Terror
Kansas City Convention and Entertainment Center
Kansas City, Missouri

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 822-3.html

Hardballers Take Pot Shots At Bush Over Cambodia Comparison
By Geoffrey Dickens | August 22, 2007 - 18:43 ET

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-d ... comparison

[e_dog]

Yes, indeed, stay the course. A shame that we didn't have a leader with Bush's heroic vision back in the '70s when instead our politicians turned into cut-and-runners, responding to a few complainin' hippies.

Let's get the job done this time, against them commies, er, uh terr'ists. Or else invade Iran....

[jimboloco]

what i just called in about to radio activity
will be on the archives manyana
closed the show

dispute bush's reference to "what happenned in s vietnam"
To: dj@wmnf.org
I dispute bush's reference to "what happenned in s vietnam"
"after Amerika lephft,"
I was there in 70-71,
when we left, the violence in s vietnam was almost at a calm,
the bombing continued in east cambodia, laos, and n vietnam,
then the bombing stopped, the pows came home
north vietnam drove into the south on a sunday asfternoon
almost wihout a shot
in the spring of 75

they were the ones who stopped the khmer rhouge

his reference to what happened in indo china is false

and he hasn't a clue about the geopolitics surrounding iraq now

jim w


st pete

mercy that was quite a lengthy speech the prez schmoozed at the
gnarled lions of the vfw

i think he had help
but the message was a construct to validate national policy

[jimboloco]

some folks still believe in bush's whacked out point of view
hopefully will become a minor
ity soon

[Zlatko Waterman]

Bush is, of course, an idiot non-reader, the kind I'm familiar with from my decades in the saddle, teaching.

They speak with loud voices, sure of themselves, like guys who change tires for a living, sure that nothing except where the rubber meets the road is worth knowing.

How can you get your own party AND the military pissed and exhausted with your dummyfying at the same time? At least Teddy Roosevelt had his bear.

Having Mortimer Snerd in the White House doesn't keep the poor folks who turn to the army for a "career" from getting IED'd.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bergen


Stanley Karnow's book should be a starter and a mouth-shutter for Bush. And Karnow is rather mild in his treatment of U.S. terrorism and waste in Vietnam.

Corps rule, and they shall rule Hillary also, who is the heir apparent to facilitating KBR's new adventures in the desert.


--NCM

[e_dog]

Naw, but seriously did anyone actually vet Bush's vet speech. Could anyone possibily think raisin the issue of 'Nam could be a case FOR stayin in Irak? Its crazie! I mean, it's cra-zee@!

[hester_prynne]

INdeed, Hillary is the "heir apparent". That is spot on how I feel about her, despite the fact that she is a sister. I just don't see how she can "buy herself out" of her own sellout. But many are satisfied simply with the fact that she is a "woman", would be the "first woman president". I mean think of the aggrandizement we could entertain ourselves with in that, despite the war, murders, the poverty, the embarrassing mistakes made by Bushco. Think of the incredible amount of time we could spend in denial, celebrating a first like that, and forgetting about everything else.
Ugh.
H

[mnaz]

It's a wonder they let him into the joint. Holy shite.


Hellifino. It must all be rooted somehow in the untouchable, often insane psychology of "service"-- as in, "duty, honor, country", as the unwritten blood directive goes....

Who knows... Perhaps these vets might applaud Satan himself in a suit for ordering the army to slaughter and be slaughtered to try and enlarge hell for Halliburton and Exxon against invented foreign boogeymen and Clashes of Civilizations....
(what civilization?)....

[jimboloco]

someday the militarios got to wake up to being misused
but the air farce likes action
no matter no mind

a change in point of view comes gradually\

i see hillarious as doing thhe right things gradually
we will pull back gradually from iraq
we will heal the military at home
we will open up negotiations with iran, syria, cuba, venezuela
gradually

she is an intermediary
a step forward.

a placating schmoozer, yes,
but not a neo-con.

some would follow lemming-like
but as was said, hopefully bushco has estranged himself from the militarios enough by his terrible deployment policies.