Al Sharpton speech

[e_dog]

amazing.

listen up!

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl? ... /21/158225

DemocracyNow! Amy Goodman's show.

[jimboloco]

I listened to the entire program, watched it actually and also heard David Duke's distorted mania. Duke's web cast broadcast is devoted to people of European descent, I guess that makes us decent, or what? I am not proud of much of the Eurpoean descendants' legacy, so I have to reach way back to our Neanderthal roots, or early Cro-Magnon.

I was impressed with the parents of those young African American men. They were well spoken and articulate. I was embarrassed by Duke's distorted mania and also the paranoid in-denial white lady who categorised the hanging nooses as mere "pranks."

The perceptual-cultural divide that exists is one that persists, and we have got to be greatful that at last this case is getting some national attention. I saw it on CNN yesterday afternoon while in a room with a black family at my job in hospital. The husband of my patient was in the Army Air Corps in the Pacific theatre for three+ years in WW 2. I was able to talk freely with them about all manner of things, more so than I would have felt comfortable with among many white folks.

Al Sharpton is trying to keep a persistance to this struggle, really, for a greater humanity, which also includes beat whites, and jazz bums.

[e_dog]

yeah that white lady's a trip! 'i can't see it as a racial issue.'

sure. one of those color-blind noose-hangin'-from-a-tree in the deep south incidents. pure coincidence. white denial.

[Peevette]

you DO realize that Al Sharpton is just milking these 'causes' to gain wealth? He's not any less wicked that the Duke dude..........

[e_dog]

He's not any less wicked that the Duke dude..........

Oh contraire! Al Sharpton's milkin' these causes to start a neo Civil Rights Mvt. anyways, the difference between a profiteering white-supremicist and a profiteering equal rights champ. are enormous. if ya can't see that i suggest readin' up on history of racism in this country. the KKK is/was a terrorist organization that makes Al Queda look like the Boy Scouts (another terrorist organization, mind you).

[jimboloco]

you know anyone can be accused of ulterior motives
show me how al sharpton will profit from this issue and balance it with what he hopes to gain as a social issue

it's ok to scrutinize folks for their motives
i suggest you apply that scrutinyto the neo-cons and their wealth building

someone recently accused all young military people of being mercenary
that kind of catrte blanc irrationality is not exactly condcive to helpful anaylsis.

sure al sharpton has his personal issues and he has jumped the gun before inflating situational ethics
however, his motives are less personal and more social, regarding his personal wealth versus the wealth of imperial neo-con artists.

sometimes people are sincere when speaking out against negative power interests, and al sharpton challenging jim crow in the deep south is such an instance.
maybe you'ld prefer david duke, the imperial wizard.

at any rate, i suggest you focus less on the speaker al sharpton and see the enormous quality of the mothers and dads of these young kids who are speaking out. all al sharpton does in this case is to help with a national attention, versus a suppressed event without national concern.

jim crow is alive and well in the deep south.

[Peevette]

if ya can't see that i suggest readin' up on history of racism in this country. the KKK is/was a terrorist organization that makes Al Queda look like the Boy Scouts (another terrorist organization, mind you).

It never hurts to read up on one's history, however, in this case, I do not need to study further, since I LIVED it!! My exhusband is a black man. (note: I did not call him an AFRICAN AMERICAN, his father was born in the Bahamas........but my ex was born in the US, which makes him an AMERICAN! plain and simple)

I have been threatened and verbally abused by the KKK. Threats of hanging my black nigger children and rape the nigger loving bitch.........do I need to provide more examples??

Let me tell you something you might not know.....the majority of the 'black community' will come out and say that Al Sharpton is no better then the 'ambulance' chasing lawyers. Same thing is said about Jessie Jackson. Agreed, they have a positive cause on their side.............but there is wickedness afoot........I will not follow blindly, but with caution..

All I'm saying is: The man is a human being, not a saint.

[Peevette]

maybe you'ld prefer david duke, the imperial wizard.

Maybe you should read my post above.............

I am stepping out of this thread.....I'm leaving you as victor.

[stilltrucking]

I don't mind sharpton getting rich off his DemagogueryIt is the dead bodies he has left behind with his racist hysteria and disregard for the truth.

We been there done this about about my feelings about Reverend Sharpton.
twice now jimblo
but I would do it a thousand times
here is the incident I am speaking of.

1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno.

If Sharpton were a white skinhead, he would be a political leper, spurned everywhere but the fringe. But far from being spurned, he is shown much deference. Democrats embrace him. Politicians court him. And journalists report on his comings and goings while politely sidestepping his career as a hatemongering racial hustler.

this is the source of the info on a quick google
looks like a right wing website
but I think it is still a factual account.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2411


I hope Sharpton does more good than harm in Jena
I am going to listen in
see what he had to say.


>>>>>>>>>>>
post posted
Okay I read it
It sounds like nothhing much has changed in Jena. Sounds like the civil rights movement never happened.

I suppose one of these days I got to stop judging sharpton on what he has said in the past. But he never appologized.

[jimboloco]

well am dissappointed that one would leave the thread before a more complete discussion of it

anyhow sharpton is only one voice among many
so is jackson
and we all know that mlk was a womaniser
so was jfk
now what
is there no redemption

[stilltrucking]

MLK should be cannonized
So should malcom of x



facts on jena six getting twisted big time''

for example
no whites on the jury
whywas that?
maybe because

The six-member jury that convicted Bell was indeed all white. However only one in ten people in LaSalled parish is African American and though black residents were selected randomly by computer and summoned for jury selection, none showed up.

from the AP

Not to make light of it or excuse
the injustice
but I been reading about it
there may have not been any connection between the fight and the two nooses (not three as in the kkk symobol) the so called white tree was used by kids of all races at one time or another

they say the kid who was never in any trouble was suspended a couple of times before because of fights
the white kids recieved more punishment than is reported

the trial was wrong
justice was not served

but rev al
he is a scum bag

you he has incited more than one riot jimbo

when was the last riot inspired by a speech of St Martin King
womanizing is a long way from murder

why do we keep having this conversaiton about rev al

Sharpton is a racist but he at least has good reason to be that way

David Duke makes Rev Al look like a saint
But at least Duke has his heart in the right place on Iraq.
He has a big yellow sticker on his website that says
"support our troops bring them home."

You know what I think
I think we are all going to heaven
one day
cause death pays all debts
If I get there before you I will say howdy to H8tler and the boys for you.
I expect H*tler to very annoyed by the presence of all the jews, queers, gypsies that will be there with him.

yes indeed
I love arguing with you jimbo
I love this country
I love free speech
while we still have it
I got to go yell FIRE in a crowded movie theatre
talk at you later
mi amigo

[e_dog]

"the majority of the 'black community' will come out and say that Al Sharpton is no better then the 'ambulance' chasing lawyers. Same thing is said about Jessie Jackson."

So says the Peever.

If so, it just shows that they've been sucked into the false consciousness of rightwing propaganda. just like with the lawyers -- complaints about ambulance chasing lawyers is nothin but propaganda from the insurance industry and richfolk who doesn't wanna pay up for the damages.

So what if theres a trail of blood in Sharpton's path -- tho that silly article don't prove shit against him, just that heated disputes blow up some times, big surprise -- thats what happens when you walk through a warzone, someone's gotta stand up to the white racists. The reason MLK, Jr. is loved by the whitefolk is he was a lover, not a fighter he. Malcolm X was tougher, he'll never be a saint. Panthers tougher still, they are all but forgotten by histrybooks.


so, stilltruckin, you going to tell us that because there was two nooses 'stead o' three, that makes it okay?

why didn't any blacks get on the jury? 'cause they know the judicial system in Louisiana's corrupt, as tho they are not welcome.

Don't defend the racists. Rev. Al's a hero, fer sure.

[stilltrucking]

e-dog wrote:

So what if theres a trail of blood in Sharpton's path

oh my

[e_dog]

i quit too, this thinkin too hard or me. Jimbo, you win!


i close wit the words of Peter Tosh: "I don't want no peace; I want equal rights and justice." Damn hippies, need to learn from REGGAE how to be radical.

[stilltrucking]

you got that right
thinking is too hard
checking out the facts is too hard
better to go with the hype

I got to go see the wizard and get me a diploma for a Doctorate in Thinkology




That is why MLK was murdered by the white folks because ...
he was not a fighter

and Malcomb was murdered by black folks because he was a lover of peace when he converted to true Islam

Pardon me for being a wimp
I suppose it is the trail of my own blood that I have left on the streets of the mean cities of this land from baltimore to astoria.
You a tough guy e-dog
you obviously are speaking from experience

But experience is over rated
who has time enough for it anyway.

So what if theres a trail of blood in Sharpton's path

so what indeed
we need more blood
we need an ocean of blood
to wash the sins from this guilty land
where is John Brown's body when we need him

who is defending racists here
except you

much is being made of the tree crosses as a klan symbol
maybe that forgot to hang the third noose
I don't know.
I know the sentence was not right
You making plenty of excuses e-dog
I hope you have plenty of blood in your future
you sound like you love it
you are a true warrior for truth justice and the american way.

and that trail of dead bodies in his wake were just jews. hell we seen plenty of dead jews. no sense getting uptight about that.