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The Rotting Christ

Post by stilltrucking » December 5th, 2004, 2:07 am

Rotting Christ
The rotting values of our Dear Leader

After months examining microscopic samples, the team concluded in January that the Shroud of Turin is centuries older than its carbon date. Dr. Garza said the shroud's fibers are coated with bacteria and fungi that have grown for centuries. Carbon dating, he said, had sampled the contaminants as well as the fibers' cellulose.http://www.uthscsa.edu/mission/spring96/shroud.htm
Haunting imageThe Shroud of Turin, as seen by the naked eye, is a negative image of a man with his hands folded. The linen is 14 feet, 3 inches long and 3 feet, 7 inches wide. The shroud is wrapped in red silk and kept in a silver chest in the Chapel of the Holy Shroud in the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist in Turin, Italy.

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I have always wondered about the skinny hippy in those Catholic churches was he malnourished because of the Roman dungeon. He was a a working stiff, there were no power tools, seems like he would have had better muscle definition.

I have had only one dream that i woke up from and thought that it was Jesus I had dreamt about. He was a black man, an Afro American to judge by his accent. A nice guy, one of those people it just feels good to hang out with. Don't you just love dreams; cheap entertainment.
I have never heard the voice of G-d But I do believe I have heard the still small voice in the silence, not even a whisper, more like a presence. Maybe it was Jimmy Cricket, the voice of my conscience

Dam you perezoso you and that Hollywood post of yours I been looking at all those images I got stored up from movies. The one that comes to mind when I think of bears is the last scene in Legends Of The Fall. A good death. Of the animals I worked with in that circus the bear was the spookiest. He rode an old Harley Davidson vintage 1930's after the show all these people would come back stage and try to get that Harley, they would offer brand new motorcycles in exchange but the trainer could not do it. He would have to retrain the bear.*************


That shroud may not be a miracle. But so far it has been inexplicable. If that is the right word.

I have seen some pretty graphics of NMR scans of the brain showing what happens when a "religious" experience is happening. Had to do with a kid who had seizures where he would have mystical visions. I think it was on NOVA

I think that there is a local area in the human brain that gives rise to all these religious feelings, and non religious feeling, rationality and irrationality are not isolated in different areas. The Minsky Meat machine brain. kind of digital, on/off, god/no god. It seems kind of like Zen
I think that, but I don't know jack shit about Zen. I just want to do it not learn a new vocabulary.

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That is one of my favorite religions. They hunted and worshipped bears, standing over fifteen feet tall. There were stacks of bear skuls arranged in ceremonial piles. A worth while religion . I can't find the link yet, I am working from memory of a anthropology course from thirty years ago. Before that Clan of The Cave Bear novel was written. I like the part about not minding the smell of hyaena shit.
Chapter 11 provides Aldhouse-Green's final interpretation of the site, an overview of human occupation and a very useful summary of the evidence for Early Upper Palaeolithic burials throughout Europe. Green sees the site as mainly being used by carnivores until 29k, essentially hyenas, but their decline around this time led to an increase in bears and subsequently modern humans. The first modern humans to visit carried an Aurignacian tool kit, their entry into Britain late in European terms and probably reflecting Britain's liminal position in the UP world, followed by a series of periodic Gravettian visits (including the burial at 26 kya). He sees humans using the cave as a sacred place visited only on ritual occasion, replete with magic wands, shamanistic ceremony and bear-worship. Neanderthals had a limited presence prior to 30kya, and unlike modern humans were apparently not deterred by the presence of hyaena shit in the cave. The final chapter is intended to provide some perspective on the previous one, being a review of social & ritual life among Australian hunter-gatherers. It is an interesting and useful chapter, but its inclusion as the final chapter of this book might raise a few eyebrows.
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now you can go shit in your hat for all I care.
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Post by Artguy » December 5th, 2004, 1:41 pm

It has been speculated that , (as much of the life of Christ has been), he went east for several years, as far east as India. Perhaps his gauntness was due to giving up the working stiff's life and leading one of an aesthete in the wilderness pondering enlightenment as he would have learned in his travels amongst Hindus and Buddhists.....

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Post by Doreen Peri » December 5th, 2004, 2:00 pm

Is there any solid evidence that he actually existed?

I've been trying to find out for the past 2 years.

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Post by stilltrucking » December 5th, 2004, 10:11 pm

I don't know if he did or not, the shroud is interesting to me because of the type of body that is depicted. A mesomorph? Well muscled solid build. The image is not painted on it is sort of burned into the shroud.
Would his body type change because he
giving up the working stiff's life and leading one of an aesthete in the wilderness pondering enlightenment,
I suppose that could change your body type.


The Power Of Myth,
If it gets me through the night
that's good enough for me

Religious zealots got to prove god exists and zealous atheists got to prove he don't. For me it is like this, it is only rock and roll but I like it. "Jesus is just all right with me" The Doobie Brothers.


There are more people alive today then have ever lived before, If you totaled up the people killed in all the religious wars and crusades, I think the people killed by Marx/Stalin Nietzsche/Hitler would be greater. Who is more rational than Marx or Nietzsche?
But I think George W. Bush and Osama Bin Laden could even up the score with their moral values. I am not trying to defend Christianity, god knows Bush is doing a great job there. (sarcasm)
It has been speculated that , (as much f the life of Christ has been), he went east for several years, as far east as India. Perhaps his gauntness was due to giving up the working stiff's life and leading one of an aesthete in the wilderness pondering enlightenment as he would have learned in his travels amongst Hindus and Buddhists.....

But Jesus seemed to enjoy a good meal and a little wine, he hung out with the street people spoke the language of the street.

There is a book called The Things Of New Spain, it mentions the White Faced god who did not demand human sacrifice. But he was overthrown, the trickster rules, the the savage god. We always hear that Jesus went to India, maybe he went to visit America too.
I think it was a Tom Robbins novel maybe "Another Road Side Attraction" where he quotes the bible as saying "if all the things Christ had said, and all the experience of all the places he had gone were written down there would not be enough books to contain it all.". Doreen I am not trying to prove anything to anybody. We have all kinds of faith in things we don't understand. I turn on a light switch and the lights come on. I have no idea how electricity works. .I heard god compared to the square root of minus one, I like that a lot, i is an imaginary number, or irrational? number I can't remember which, you plug it into an equation and get answers that work.


it goes back to this rationality thing, sometimes i think it is over rated. If there is a connection between Nietzsche and Nazi's and Marx and Stalin then if we stacked up all the bodies of all the people killed in all the religious wars, the crusades, human sacrifices and inquisitions, Hitler and Stalin woud have the winning totals, what is more rational than marx and nietzsche?
Now George Bush and Osam Bin Laden could come out winners if they try hard enough.


first version, I am working on a second version but screwed it up meanwhile good luck making any sense out of this

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Post by Marksman45 » December 8th, 2004, 2:21 am

doreen peri wrote:Is there any solid evidence that he actually existed?

I've been trying to find out for the past 2 years.
Solid evidence of anyone short of royalty past a certain dateline is hard to come by. Don't sweat it

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