A tough choice to make

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A tough choice to make

Post by stilltrucking » September 16th, 2012, 9:42 am

Moral Clarity or Godless Socialism
Romney or Obama
God bless the republican party
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PAUL RYAN has not sautéed in foreign policy in his years on Capitol Hill. The 42-year-old congressman is no Middle East savant; till now, his idea of a border dispute has more likely involved Wisconsin and Illinois.

Yet Ryan got up at the Values Voter Summit here on Friday and skewered the Obama administration as it struggled to manage the Middle East mess left by clumsily mixed American signals toward the Arab Spring and the disastrous legacy of war-obsessed Republicans.

Ryan bemoaned “the slaughter of brave dissidents in Syria. Mobs storming American embassies and consulates. Iran four years closer to gaining a nuclear weapon. Israel, our best ally in the region, treated with indifference bordering on contempt by the Obama administration.” American foreign policy, he said, “needs moral clarity and firmness of purpose.”

Ryan was moving his mouth, but the voice was the neocon puppet master Dan Senor. The hawkish Romney adviser has been secunded to manage the running mate and graft a Manichaean worldview onto the foreign affairs neophyte.

A moral, muscular foreign policy; a disdain for weakness and diplomacy; a duty to invade and bomb Israel’s neighbors; a divine right to pre-emption — it’s all ominously familiar.

You can draw a direct line from the hyperpower manifesto of the Project for the New American Century, which the neocons, abetted by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, used to prod an insecure and uninformed president into invading Iraq — a wildly misguided attempt to intimidate Arabs through the shock of overwhelming force. How’s that going for us?

After 9/11, the neocons captured one Republican president who was naïve about the world. Now, amid contagious Arab rage sparked on the 11th anniversary of 9/11, they have captured another would-be Republican president and vice president, both jejeune about the world.

Senor is emblematic of how much trouble America blundered into in the Middle East — trillions wasted, so many lives and limbs lost — because of how little we fathom the culture and sectarian politics. We’re still stumbling in the dark. We not only don’t know who our allies and enemies are, we don’t know who our allies’ and enemies’ allies and enemies are.

As the spokesman for Paul Bremer during the Iraq occupation, Senor helped perpetrate one of the biggest foreign policy bungles in American history. The clueless desert viceroys summarily disbanded the Iraqi Army, forced de-Baathification, stood frozen in denial as thugs looted ministries and museums, deluded themselves about the growing insurgency, and misled reporters with their Panglossian scenarios of progress.

“Off the record, Paris is burning,” Senor told a group of reporters a year into the war. “On the record, security and stability are returning to Iraq.”

Before he played ventriloquist to Ryan, Senor did the same for Romney, ratcheting up the candidate’s irresponsible bellicosity on the Middle East. Senor was the key adviser on Romney’s disastrous trip to Israel in July, when Mittens infuriated the Palestinians by making a chuckleheaded claim about their culture.

Senor got out over his skis before Romney’s speech in Jerusalem, telling reporters that Mitt would say he respected Israel’s right to make a pre-emptive, unilateral attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

While the Muslim world burned on Friday, Mitt was in New York with Kelly Ripa and Michael Strahan confessing that he wears “as little as possible” to bed. With no global vision or historical perspective — he didn’t even remember during his Tampa convention to mention our troops or the years of war his party reigned over — Romney is simply kowtowing to the right again.

Paul Wolfowitz, an Iraq war architect, weighed in on Fox News, slimily asserting that President Obama should not be allowed to “slither through” without a clear position on Libya.

Republicans are bananas on this one. They blame Obama for casting Hosni Mubarak overboard and contradict themselves by blaming him for not supporting the Arab Spring. One minute Romney parrots Bibi Netanyahu’s position on Iran, the next Obama’s.

Romney’s cynical braying about Obama appeasement in the midst of the attack on the American diplomatic post in Libya and the murder of the brave ambassador, Christopher Stevens, was shameful. Richard Williamson, a Romney adviser, had the gall to tell The Washington Post, “There’s a pretty compelling story that if you had a President Romney, you’d be in a different situation.”

He’s right — a scarier situation. If President Romney acceded to Netanyahu’s outrageous demand for clear red lines on Iran, this global confrontation would be a tiny foretaste of the conflagration to come.

Cheney, described by Romney as a “person of wisdom and judgment,” is lurking. On Monday, he churlishly tried to deny President Obama credit for putting Osama in the cross hairs, cattily referring to a report that Obama had not gone to all his intelligence briefings.

Well, yes. W. got briefings, like the one that warned him on Aug. 6, 2001: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” That didn’t work so well either, did it?

OP-ED COLUMNIST
Neocons Slither Back
By MAUREEN DOWD

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by Arcadia » September 16th, 2012, 10:05 am

fear has always been a good bussiness for some people, it´s not new...

and meanwhile do we pay with our taxes this? or maybe it´s just a gift? damn....! :roll: :?

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpai ... 09-16.html

(& also our government found with it -at some point- an easier enemy for some days...)

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by stilltrucking » September 16th, 2012, 11:58 am

the truth is so important that you should always carry some lies as bodyguards.
from the article you posted.
I liked that a lot

Yes fear is good business for sure.
I been rereading 1984 again.
I been spending far too much time in room 101
FDR is still right
We americans have nothing to fear except ourselves and our moral clarity.

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by e_dog » October 21st, 2012, 11:03 pm

Word, stilltru'.
I don't think 'Therefore, I am.' Therefore, I am.

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by Arcadia » October 23rd, 2012, 2:41 pm

what democracynow is doing looks like an interesting effort -at least from here!- :) :

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/23/ ... mney_agree

I knew what your third parties options are thanks them and Telesur ... :lol:

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by e_dog » October 23rd, 2012, 5:29 pm

thatsa good that atleast the sud americanos know 'bout the third partys en amerika.

'cause ordnary Amerikans sure Don't!


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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by Arcadia » October 24th, 2012, 12:54 pm

hola, e_dog! :D good to read your scat again!!!!

thatsa good that atleast the sud americanos know 'bout the third partys en amerika.

'cause ordnary Amerikans sure Don't!


yeah maybe that´s good and also a bit not useful... ! :roll:

& this is funny (crossed by distance, of course ...!!): :lol: :wink:

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elmun ... 10-24.html

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by tarbaby » October 27th, 2012, 12:39 pm

from the article that arcadia posted:
(Abelard, filing and bayonets)". It is the phrase that sums yesterday in the American press and on social networking the best moments of the debate between Obama, seeking re-election win on Nov. 6, and Romney

ramble shamble gambling turtles from here down↓
The Priests of Power↔with God on our side


The Republican Party in the 'United Snakes of America'© is the party of God.
The only choice I have to make is which side am I on.
Just chewing the cud, don't mean nothing, I am just a happy little fat buddha sitting here doing what I love, which is pretty much nothin, pickin and grinnin typing and trippin.
I am just killing time till I hear the next words coming out of the TV or Radio or computer telling me what I need to think. Maybe the ordinary amerikans need a Argentine type wake up call to realize what crimes our government commits. I guess I am an anarchist in my old age cause I think all governments are criminal, some more than others.

I have made my choice, I have decided to choose my candidate by how he looks in his underwear. I am going for the guy in the BVD'™ , the Nobel Peace Prize winner with a kill list. The guy in the Magic Mormon underwear with the Masonic symbols is just too spooky for me.
jest talking scat, talking shit, jive. if 666 was 999 I done care
go ahead:
Send in the clowns send in the drones, the chickens will come home to [roast. No matter who I vote for.
A roost chicken in every pot, god I love typos :lol:

Yes a third party candidate. Eugene V. Debs please call home. A write in vote :?: .
Abelard defends his thesis that universals are nothing but words by arguing that ontological realism about universals is incoherent. More exactly, he holds that there cannot be any real object in the world satisfying Boethius's criteria for the universal, namely something present as a whole in many at once so as to constitute their substance (i.e. to make the individual in which it is present what it is). Hence, Abelard concludes, universality is not an ontological feature of the world but a semantic feature of language.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/abelard/
“Where is that man who has forgotten words that I may have a word with him?”

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by Jacob » November 4th, 2012, 1:20 am

The beginning lines of this topic remind me of these videos, so therefore relevant? :?
#1


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Re: A tough choice to make

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by stilltrucking » November 5th, 2012, 10:28 pm

LMAO! If people actually read the details of Mormonism, would they have voted for him? The idea that God lives on or near a planet called Kolob????? He would have been laughed out of the race.
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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by Atehequa » November 16th, 2012, 9:02 am

Not a tough choice,

Just an out of control two headed political monster.

Two fanged maws the better to eat you with.

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Re: A tough choice to make

Post by stilltrucking » November 16th, 2012, 10:13 am

The tough choice for me was whether I was going to vote or not. As an American I did not want anymore innocent blood on my hands, I did not want to vote for the Noble Peace prize winner with the kill list or for the spiritual zombie from the planet Kolob.


Totalitarian Democracy:
by LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI
The first fine dawn of life on earth
The first light of the first morning
The first evening star
The first man on the moon seen from afar
The first voyage of Ulysses westward
The first fence on the last frontier
The first tick of the atomic clock of fear
The first Home Sweet Home so dear
The sweet smell of honeysuckle at midnight
The first free black man free of fright
The sweet taste of freedom
The first good orgasm
The first Noble Savage
The first Pale Face settler on the first frontier
The last Armenian and the last Ojibway in Fresno
The first ball park hotdog with mustard
The first home run in Yankee Stadium
The first song of love and forty cries of despair
The first pure woman passing fair
The sweet smell of success
The first erection and the first Resurrection
The first darling buds of May
The last covered wagon through the Donner Pass
The first green sprouts of new grass
The last cry of Mark Twain! on the Mississippi
The First and Last Chance Saloon
The ghostly galleon of the half-moon
The first cry of pure joy in morning light
The distant howl of trains lost in book of night
The first morning after the night before thinking
The last new moon sinking
The last of the Mohicans and the last buffalo
The last sweet chariot swinging low
The first hippie heading for the hills
The last bohemian in a beret
The last beatnik in North Beach with something to say
The last true love to come your way
The last Wobbly and the last Catholic Anarchist
The last paranoid Lefty
The last Nazi
The first bought vote in the first election
The last hand caught in the last cookie jar
The last cowboy on the last frontier
The last bald eagle with nothing to fear
The last buffalo head nickel
The last living member of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade
The last Mom and Pop grocery
The last firefly flickerng in the night

The first plane to hit the first Twin Tower
The last plane to hit the last Twin Tower
The only plane to ever hit the Pentagon
The birth of a vast national paranoia
The beginning of the Third World War
(the War Against the Third World)

The first trip abroad by an ignorant president
The last free-running river
The last gas and oil on earth
The last general strike
The last Fidelista the last Sandinista the last Zapatista
The last political prisoner
The last virgin and the last of the champagne
The last train to leave the station
The last and only great nation
The last Great Depression
The last will & testament
The last welfare check for rent
The end of the old New Deal
The new Committee on Unamerican Activities
The last politician with honest proclivities
The last independent newspaper
printing the news and raising hell
The last word and the last laugh and the Last Hurrah
The last picture show and the last waltz
The last Unknown Soldier
The last innocent American
The last Ugly American
The last Great Lover and the last New Yorker
The last home-fries with ketchup-to-go
The last train home at midnight
The last syllable of recorded time
The last long careless rapture
The last independent bookstore with its own mind
The last best hope of mankind
The lost chord and the lost leader
The last drop of likker
The cup that runneth over quicker
The last time I saw Paris Texas
The last peace treaty and the Last Supper
The first sweet signs of spring
The first sweet bird of youth
The first baby tooth and the last wisdom tooth
The last honest election
The last freedom of information
The last free Internet
The last free speech radio
The last unbought television network
The last homespun politician
The last Jeffersonian
The last Luddite in Berkeley
The last Bottom Line and the last of Social Security
The first fine evening calm and free
The beach at sunset with reclining nudes
the lovers wrapped in each other
The last meeting of the Board
The last gay sailor to come aboard
The first White Paper written in blood
The last terrorist born of hate and poverty
The last citizen who bothered to vote
The first President picked by a Supreme Court
The end of the Time of Useful Consciousness
The unfinished flag of the United States
The ocean’s long withdrawing roar

The birth of a nation of sheep
The deep deep sleep of the booboisie
The underground wave of feel-good fascism
The uneasy rule of the super-rich
The total triumph of imperial America
The final proof of our Manifest Destiny
The first loud cry of America über alles
Echoing in freedom’s alleys
The last lament for lost democracy
The total triumph of
totalitarian plutocracy

CODA

Cut down cut down cut down
Cut down the grassroots
Cut down those too wild weeds
in our great agri-fields and golf courses
Cut down cut down those wild sprouts
Cut down cut down those rank weeds
Pull down your vanity, man, pull down
the too wild buds the too wild shoots
Cut down the wild unruly vines & voices
the hardy volunteers and pioneers
Cut down cut down the alien corn
Cut down the crazy introverts
Tongue-tied lovers of the subjective
Cut down cut down the wild ones the wild spirits
The desert rats and monkey wrenchers
Easy riders and midnight cowboys in narco nirvanas
Cut down the wild alienated loners
fiddling with their moustaches
plotting revolution in hopeless cellars
Cut down cut down all those freaks and free thinkers
Wild-eyed poets with wandering minds
Soapbox agitators and curbstone philosophers
Far out weirdos and rappers
Stoned-out visionaries and peace-niks
Exiles in their own land!
O melting pot America!

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