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Will we ever learn? Or care?

Posted: October 26th, 2005, 4:40 pm
by mnaz
The pictures of shattered children that jimboloco posted in the "Airstrike" thread are just heartbreaking and numbing. I feel myself receding a little further into a terminal resignation, without possibility of hope. I know I can't go there, but I edge closer just the same.

I've been trying like hell to get inside the heads of our military leaders of the 'West', through articles, etc., and even dialogue here on this board, to try and understand why the hell we persist with the misery and bloodshed, to try and see what it would take to make it end, or at least start to make it end. It's frustrating as hell to me. And it deeply angers me to see my country responsible for such savagery, and all this in a war that was unnecessary, a war that was born out of lies.

All of it has troubled me a great deal, right from the start. The only faint bright spot throughout this tragedy has been the prospect of an eventual better life for the people of Iraq, a prospect which grows dimmer on a daily basis with Bush's dogged military bluster, and lingering, mounting suspicions that, despite what he says, he will fight to the end because he still wants military control of the place.

I suppose I can take some heart in the fact that the United States did remove a horrific butcher of a tyrant. The people of Iraq will no longer have to face Saddam's mass-murder and torture. But this solace doesn't last long when I consider that U.S. itself is substituting its own form of mass-murder for the last.

And then when I consider that the U.S. armed and empowered Saddam to start with, to much higher levels than he ever dreamed of (Reagan, Rumsfeld et. al), it is even more troubling, because I, like most people, slept right through it. I never spoke out in those years, as I should have.... as we all should have.

It was ruinous foreign policy which created monumental suffering; that which continues right up to today. And most of us rubber-stamped it with our deafening silence. It seems many, if not most of us hardly give a shit until the suffering hits home. American foreign policy has been filled with this sort of self-interested toxic bullshit, and it has gone unchecked over the years. That's what I find most disturbing about not only Iraq, but the bigger picture which contributed to ruin Iraq to begin with. Will we ever learn? God knows how many other ticking time bombs we've planted out there.

We may have removed a horrific thug from power, and perhaps we can take something from that. But his trial itself will be a kind of surreal "sketch" of the larger problem, which most will never see, or question. Like e_dog pointed out earlier.... why aren't Rumsfeld and his 1980s co-conspirators standing trial right alongside Saddam?

We may have removed Saddam. But we cannot, we must not obliterate that one positive with endless ongoing state-sponsored brutality in the name of imperial lust, disguised as a "noble cause". Absolutely no way.

Posted: October 26th, 2005, 5:01 pm
by hester_prynne
I hear you loud and clear and agree with you loud and clear too Mnaz.
It's appalling, it's horrific and it's got to stop, NOW!

H 8)

Posted: October 27th, 2005, 9:16 am
by jimboloco
I feel myself receding a little further into a terminal resignation, without possibility of hope. I know I can't go there, but I edge closer just the same.
Now you know why some people commit suicide, become suiicide bombers, become dysfunctional. We always need hope.

Group therapy for distressed citizens.
Last evening there was a demonstration over on Tampa at "Patriots' Point," a gathering place for weekly flag wavers in support of the troops, yes, well, it has now been appropriated by anti-war folks as well, got great local tv coverage last April with the anniversary of the was, "Mission accomplished" or something.
Well, there was a candlelight vigil there with the 2000th soldier fallen. I was gonna go, then we were having some conflicts at home, wife angry about things, step-son's girlfriend staying away, can you feel the heat? and i had a visit with my shrink and decided not to do the vigil instead was planning on walking with my wife, weather is cool now, 65 degrees :P
so anyhow, we wound up going to step-grandson's makeup soccer game.

I am doing the best that I can, folks, not hitting the street a lot, but am there on occasion. also the occasional letter to the editor, and call-in or invited guest arranged at local radio (did two recently, peace vets and nam vet zen priest)

Getting inside one's own head to feel better is not ignoring the problem, but I am also a survivor. I need involvement to survive, but also need to be aware of my limits and that includes energy for work, it pays the bills, when I get too frazzled, I call in. This is a chronic thingh, did less callin's this year than last, maybe a week missed altogether.

Time to pop that first Wellbutrin SL. Have another hit

Gonna post a crazy drawing and also a couple more photos from my chronos string, in process.

Well , at least we are getting inside the heads of one another.

Theeeere are rebellions all the time from within the establishment,but it seems that the rebellions are by individuals who are directly involved in military policy actions and that something happens to catalyse them into a rebellion, a sense of ethics, it emerges in life, man.

Don't see the politicians in power rsigning over policy tho.
How'd you like to get inside George W. Bush's head? Now wouldn't that be a crock of shit!

Hester I am greatful as well for your anger and dissappointment.
Hope you find resources to sustain. Go to go to the Zen therapist.
He's got a bug bronze Kwan Yin in his office. She offers a hand to help, yet is celf-composed as well. Toodles!
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