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I don't understand this board....called culture but it's all politics....I'm not making the equation....

what is culture?

a norm, a civilisation, a worldview?
an ethnological specifity,a value, a social order, a symbol?
a pattern?

politics is probably a part of it, in a sense that culture is influenced by it.

... just incoherent thoughts here. no answers, kurt.

I suppose the trouble I am having is that I am a very a-political person...I try to gnore our so called leaders and conduct my life as though there are no leaders.....nationalism...patriotism....these are things that scare me...

politics is not only parties, politicians and decisions about/for/of states. it is also the relations of social and cultural groups and organisations and the actions and argumentations within these groups (community / work group / school / family / club / circle of friends, etc.).

it is the human ideas of forming the conditions of the society and group they belong to, and the relations of that community with other groups.
every human can (and should) develop and express these ideas by means of reason, knowledge, ethics, emotion and other sources of enlightenment.

politics are a part of our daily life.

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two words: Cultural Politics



as Keats said, and i paraphrase:

[Culture] is [politics], [politics] [culture]. that is all ye know on earth, and [not] all ye need to know.

Two words, theory and practice.
"In theory there is no practice, in practice there is no theory" Yogi Bera

In theory Kulture capital C is everything human. It is the extro-biological womb we are born into. In practice culture is mostly about marketing and consumer confidence Thinking about "political Art" as posted by WD below. A picture of a glowing farm worker for only $1500.


Well said panta.

When we first named this forum, we thought about naming it Politics but like you, Artguy, I'm sorta a-political (more like anti-political).

I mean, I have my opinions about various political issues (like for instance the current administration in the White House being a dangerous breed) but I sorta like to keep my distance from politics, unless there's an issue that really pisses me off and then I speak out about it.

But this site isn't about me, it's about all of us and I know many do like to talk & debate political issues and those types of topics fit just fine here.

Panta said it well, yes!

Calling the forum "Culture" seemed more appropriate because that word encompasses a variety of topics which are not necessarily political, but could be, including social issues and international issues and lifestyles around the world, etc.

I guess what I envisioned for this forum was sorta exactly what it's become or is becoming.... a mixture of topics about social & political issues.

Historically, people who have artistic inclinations are often concerned about social and political issues, so I think it fits well here.

I just checked the thesaurus and when I typed in culture, the only word that came up was "acculturization." Interesting. Never heard that word before.
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acculturation:

* noun:   the process of assimilating new ideas into an existing cognitive structure
* noun:   all the knowledge and values shared by a society
* noun:   the adoption of the behavior patterns of the surrounding culture

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My niece is in Japan. She is teaching English as a second language there as part of her college program. She sends the most interesting emails which are reports about what she is doing and what it is like to be an American transplanted into an entirely different culture.

I think it would be cool if she'd post her reports either here in the Culture forum or in the Eyewitness Reports forum. They'd fit either place.

One thing I love about the internet is meeting people who live all over the world. I want to know more about their cultures, their lifestyles, their daily routine, their lives, the social issues in their communities, etc.

Those types of posts would fit well here, too.

the culture wars begun they have

the culture wars begun they have

you are not just whistling dixie there bro
all is fair in love and war

a lot of exit ramps from studio eight to the truth, it is a war of lies,
I cling to the truth, not biblical liars who tell me how to vote from their electronic pulpits. Speaking of electronics, I don't want no stinking electronic voting mahines built by a company with a friend in washington dc prayer meetings at the white house.

throw them mother fukers out on their ass after the criminal charges go down lets have a war crimes trial. No I am not mad at nobody, it is all good, I don't trust in nothing but I know it will come out rightand Jesus said to the Fig Tree...
and The Fig Tree said to Jesus, go shit in your hat

I've always thought culture happened in the kitchen....gathering sharing exchanging...being as we originally were....

Yeah I been ranting about politics, just a part of that acculturation that happens around the kitchen table. only fitting that it happens there, culture/civilization. Hazy mind, I can't make the distinction right now. Thinking about the german for a woman's role under National Socialism, kinder, kircher, and church

I can't remember but it was children, kitchen church, not sure if that was national socialism or the general mind set of the German men. Women started this thing called civilization, what choice did we have, they got the eggs.

But now we are fighting a cultural war.
Around the kitchen table families sit and will not speak freely, religion and politics have poisoned the air. Just my family maybe.

"I've always thought culture happened in the kitchen....gathering sharing exchanging...being as we originally were..." Artguy

It is, it does ~ but ~ it's not "just" that (or there), that way.

Culture is diverse, far reaching, and all encompassing; as the dictionary says ... culture is the totality:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=culture

cul·ture Pronunciation Key (klchr)
n.

1.
1. The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.
2. These patterns, traits, and products considered as the expression of a particular period, class, community, or population: Edwardian culture; Japanese culture; the culture of poverty.
3. These patterns, traits, and products considered with respect to a particular category, such as a field, subject, or mode of expression: religious culture in the Middle Ages; musical culture; oral culture.
4. The predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize the functioning of a group or organization.
2. Intellectual and artistic activity and the works produced by it.
3.
1. Development of the intellect through training or education.
2. Enlightenment resulting from such training or education.
4. A high degree of taste and refinement formed by aesthetic and intellectual training.
5. Special training and development: voice culture for singers and actors.
6. The cultivation of soil; tillage.
7. The breeding of animals or growing of plants, especially to produce improved stock.
8. Biology.
1. The growing of microorganisms, tissue cells, or other living matter in a specially prepared nutrient medium.
2. Such a growth or colony, as of bacteria.

Artguy, are you're saying (asking?) with this post that perhaps those of us who readily post politics and articles of the same (such as myself); perhaps tone it down a bit, not post as much and/or remember to post other things as well, not to dominate this section of the board (?) … well, I can go along with that; I'm willing to cooperate.

How’s that sound to you?

Not at all post as you post it's all good...I am asking though what connection all this political postulating has to with our cultural make up...but thats just me as I tend to ignore political news as I try to not allow it to effect my life...I do believe we as a species are evolved beyond the need for political systems to give order and reason to our lives when we have poetry music art and jus sittin round the fire exchangin stories of the hunt...

I think culture goes from the kitchen, so to speak, into the drawing room where fabulous artists like artguy "speak" of it....visually. And it goes into the den too, where poets like some of us, point out our laments about it, and oh how it wafts out into the playground indeed, where children act it out glaringly...and so on.

I also think that political discussions have been taking precedence here right now, because the current administration is fucking with some of our most valued cultures!

I'll certainly be glad when the focus is something else. I've never felt like a "grownup" at the political round table myself, but for now, I think it's important to keep discussing as we are, because the current issues, could destroy the culture kitchen itself, the way they are going, and keep going, despite obvious seeing is believing knowledge that we've all been conned.
Ooops. There I go again! Politicizing!


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