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Saving Israel From Itself

Posted: May 7th, 2006, 9:37 am
by stilltrucking
A secular future for the Jewish state

Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005. Originally from Harper's Magazine, January 2005. By Bernard Avishai.
Israel is also a country, however, in which the institutional discrimination I spoke about has always been so routine as to be hardly noticed, especially among Jews
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http://www.harpers.org/SavingIsraelFromItself.html

Posted: May 7th, 2006, 11:50 am
by mtmynd
Truck... I read your link and was drawn to a similarity between the Israeli Jews and the Mexican 'Reconquesta Movement"... peoples wanting 'their' land returned to them... abeit this movement is limited and has little chance of succeeding in today's climate... but....

http://www.mnforsustain.org/aztlan_reco ... ontext.htm

... I do see a similarity in cultures wanting a return to what they feel has been historically 'stolen' from them.

Posted: May 7th, 2006, 12:07 pm
by Artguy
How does god, allah, or the buddha will land to a people based on belief when belief is so scattered in it's interpretation???

Posted: May 7th, 2006, 1:20 pm
by stilltrucking
Good article MT. this is from another page of the same website

Minnesotans For Sustainability©

Sustainable: A society that balances the environment, other life forms, and human interactions over an indefinite time period.

Choosing Model Nations to Set Examples
for
Achieving Sustainability*

John Cairns, Jr.

April 16, 2004


First Paragraph

"At one time, the US would have seemed the best choice for a model nation to set the example for achieving sustainability. If Americans lived sustainably, more resources would be available for use by less developed countries. However, playing the famous game of “What if?” makes the choice of the US as a model nation
even less persuasive."


***
He goes on to list about 20 "what ifs" that I have not posted.
***

Last Paragraph

“However, in the far recesses of the mind, two sobering "what ifs" remain. What if humankind continues its present unsustainable practices for the remainder of the 21st century? What if nature’s laws stop the exponential growth of the human population and its concomitant destruction of natural capital and ecosystem services? If humankind continues unsustainable practices until it finds the answers to these last two ‘what ifs,’ this collapse will demonstrate that the human mind was an evolutionary failure. One hopes that reason guided by evidence, compassion, and ethics will make these two ‘what ifs’ merely speculative visions.”


http://www.mnforsustain.org/model_natio ... s_0404.htm
How does god, allah, or the buddha will land to a people based on belief when belief is so scattered in it's interpretation???
There it is.

No body is interpreting anything in the Christian Zionist movement. It is "Biblical Land" and that is all there is to it. How do I know? Well my Bible tells me so. G d gave it to the Jews and that is that.

But

Does anyone really know what time it is?

“Don't know where I am

Can't see past the next step

Don't have to think past the last mile

Have no time to look around

Just run around, run around and think why

Does anybody really know what time it is…”

Posted: May 9th, 2006, 12:19 pm
by firsty
seriously, what is a christian zionist?

Posted: May 10th, 2006, 8:43 am
by firsty
ok, i got the answer for myself.

so, w is like a christian zionist then, and end-timer, looking to restore israel to the chosen people so that the heavens will open up etc?