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Something that matters to me more than gay marriage
Posted: June 6th, 2006, 1:39 pm
by gypsyjoker
Justices Set Limits on Public Employees' Speech Rights
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By DAVID STOUT
Published: May 30, 2006
WASHINGTON, May 30 — The Supreme Court declared today, in a ruling affecting millions of government employees, that the Constitution does not always protect their free-speech rights for what they say on the job.
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Dissents: Justice Souter | Justice StevensIn a 5-to-4 decision, the court held that public employees' free-speech rights are protected when they speak out as citizens on matters of public concern, but not when they speak out in the course of their official duties.
from the nytimes.com
Posted: June 6th, 2006, 1:49 pm
by firsty
fuck that.
Posted: June 6th, 2006, 6:09 pm
by gypsyjoker
Firsty there is not going to be a gay marriage amendment.
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Posted: June 6th, 2006, 6:13 pm
by firsty
my "fuck that" was meant as agreement with your outrage.
but, i did never think that us americans were so fucking stupid as to re-elect george w(orthless) bush, and there it happened. so i dont think it's wrong to stand up and oppose the gay marriage ban.
but you're right. there are plenty of things to stand up about around here. the only ones with their asses in the seats also have their thumbs up their asses, grinning from ear to ear in their religious fanaticism, blind faith in leadership and some strange ignorant facination with the monkey-nosed asshats in the republican party and, generally, the conservative right (wrong).
Posted: June 6th, 2006, 8:58 pm
by stilltrucking
6000 dead in Baghdad alone this year. It is the war most of all that I want to stand up and protest about.
The crack down on whistleblowers is nothing but an attempt to cover their asses. I am waiting for the next edition of The Pentagon Papers to come out. The updated version circa 2006.
I don't know if you are married firsty. I wish you every happiness, I would have loved to be there to dance at your wedding.
I run that election of 2004 through my mind over and over playing what if...?
Posted: June 7th, 2006, 9:05 am
by firsty
i'm glad you werent at my wedding. if you had been, whatever gift you bought for me would be either locked up out of my sight or smashed on the sidewalk.
i'll invite you to the next one.
yo, you. i think you hate me. i think you love me in spite of yourself. i love you. lets get married.
i am standing up quite a bit these days. gay marriage is for fags. ha. heh. marriage is crazy. did you see john stewart last nite? he ripped bill bennett a new one and bill bennett had no decent responses. it was beautiful.
i'm in a good mood today. look out.
Posted: June 7th, 2006, 12:24 pm
by stilltrucking
Yes I do love you but men are so boring. It would never work for me. I have never been married myself.
Even if the ammendment gets the two thirds vote in congress it still has to be ratified by the states. Remember the ERA? There is time limit for ratification usualy about seven years I think. So we/you got to get our acts together in 13 states to stop it.
Regardless of which of the two proposal routes is taken, the amendment must be approved by three-fourths of states. The amendment as passed may specify whether the bill must be passed by the state legislatures or by a state convention.
http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html
No cable TV I watch a lot of PBS
Posted: June 7th, 2006, 12:25 pm
by firsty
you rilly should watch the daily show on comedy central at 11 pm weeknites. good times.
Posted: June 8th, 2006, 10:27 pm
by abcrystcats
Where have you been? This isn't just an issue for public employees. It's an issue for all employees.
It seems that our rights to free speech stop when our cars roll into the parking lots of our places of work. It extends beyond them as well. My employer would be well within her/his rights to fire me if I showed up on a street corner preaching the evils of my employer's products or methods of doing business. I doubt the ACLU would be able to protect me. At all.
I first became aware of this trend in 1981. That was when some person in the hospital cafeteria complained about the food too many times.
No, I am not kidding. It was the FOOD. She was on the premises but off-duty. Her audience was the people on either side of her in line.
She got FIRED.
Yes, someone did call the ACLU. They could do nothing.
If that happened in 1981 to a hospital orderly, why are you surprised that public employees rights to free speech are suppressed?
Free speech hasn't existed in this country for decades.
Does this matter to me more than gay marriage? Hell, yes! It's the scariest trend in our times! Corporations have more rights than individuals. It's the new feudalism. And if the government wants to horn in on the trend, it's no surprise to me ....