Dick Cheney!

[bohonato]

The Vice-President came to Michigan to make a speech at Selfridge ANGB, and as my sister is in the Air Force, I got to go. I was right up front too (almost got my picture taken with him). The speech really wasn't that bad, but it was mainly just thanking the troops and that kind of thing. However, he did say that our military need "global power and global reach" (I'm dead certain thats the exact phrase). That kind of worried me. Plus, a secret service guy was standing right next me, and their suits bulge out in the most peculiar places.

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Plus, a secret service guy was standing right next me, and their suits bulge out in the most peculiar places.

Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me.

Sorry trucker I just could not resist that.

"global power and global reach" (I'm dead certain thats the exact phrase). That kind of worried me.

Dead certain, there is a lot of that going around Washington DC these days. They are dead certain of the bottom line. Crime doesn't pay they say, but war is good business.

They got global reach alright. They are reaching into the wallets of your grandchildren.

Man if I had been there I would have been worried too. I don't think I want to get close to dead eye dick.

[firsty]

dick cheney should spend more time around careless hunters and less time in front of trained guns like military personnel. with all that secret service around, the best we can hope for is a violent accident.

[stilltrucking]

bohonatoI am sure glad firsty posted to you, cause when he did he took away my delete button. I have had kin folk in the USAF too. I hope your sister stays stateside. It takes a stiff upper lip these days.
I called you trucker cause I like your avatar. Looks like a Reo or Dianmond T?

firsty, nothing personal but those pecker heads in the Log Cabin Republicans who voted for Bush because Cheney's daughter was queer. Puke.
For god's sake Firsty please tell me you are not a republican.

[firsty]

where in the fucking world did you get that i might be a republican? i hope dick cheney dies a violent death and everyone who voted for him in 2004 should be tortured and killed.

[stilltrucking]

thanks amigo, I was counting on you to cheer me up this morning.
The Log Cabin Republicans did not support him in 2004. They had seen the light by then. But they were gung ho in 2000.

If you ever want to puke I think this might do the trick. I read about half of this before I had to bow down to my commode and ...

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I believe that Dick Cheney has thought all these considerations

through in vastly greater detail than I¹m providing here and has

reached these following conclusions: first, that it is in the best

interests of humanity that the United States impose a fearful peace

upon the world and, second, that the best way to begin that epoch

would be to establish dominion over the Middle East through the

American Protectorate of Iraq. In other words, it¹s not about oil,

it¹s about power and peace.
...................
what Dick Cheney really wants is

peace. Though much has been made of his connection to Halliburton and

the rest of the Ol Bidness, he is not acting in the service of

personal greed. He is a man of principle. He is acting in the service

of intentions that are to him as noble as mine are to me - and not

entirely different.
.................................................................

Veteran Washington Post columnist Mary McGrory accompanied me on one

of my futile visits to his office, where she spent better than an

hour listening to us argue about ³circular errors probable² and ³MIRV

decoys² and the other niceties of nuclear nightmare. When we were

leaving, she, who had seen a lot of politicians in her long day,

turned to me and said, ³I think your guy Cheney is the most dangerous

person I¹ve ever seen up here.² At that point, I agreed with her.

What I was not thinking about, however, was the technique I once used

to avoid being run off the road by Mexican bus drivers, back when

their roads were narrower and their bus drivers even more macho.

Whenever I saw a bus barrelling down the centerline at me, I would

start driving unpredictably, weaving from shoulder to shoulder as

though muy borracho. As soon as I started to radiate dangerously low

regard for my own preservation, the bus would slow down and move over.

As it turned out, this is more or less what Cheney and his phalanx of

Big Stategic Thinkers were doing, if one imagined the Soviet Union as

a speeding Mexican bus. They were determined to project such a vision

of implacable, irrational, lethality that the Soviet leaders would

decide to capitulate rather than risk universal annihilation.

It worked. While I think that rock Œn¹ roll and the systemic failures

of central planning had as much to do with the collapse of communism

as did Dick¹s mad gamble, I have to confess that, by 1990, he didn¹t

look quite so nuts to me after all. The MX, along with Star Wars and

Reagan¹s terrifying rhetoric, had been all along a weapon for waging

psychological rather than nuclear warfare.

I¹m starting to wonder if were aren¹t watching something like the

same strategy again. In other words, it¹s possible Cheney and company

are actually bluffing.This time, instead of trying to terrify the

Soviets into collapse, the objective is even grander. If I¹m right

about this, they have two goals. Neither involves actual war, any

more than the MX missile did.

First, they seek to scare Saddam Hussein into voluntarily turning his

country over to the U.S. and choosing safe exile or, failing that,

they want to convince the Iraqi people that it¹s safer to attempt his

overthrow or assassination than to endure an invasion by American

· > ground troops.



Second, they are trying to convince every other nation on the planet

that the United States is the Mother of All Rogue States, run by mad

· > thugs in possession of 15,000 nuclear warheads they are willing to

use and spending, as they already are, more on death-making capacity

than all the other countries on the planet combined. In other words,

they want the rest of the world to think that we are the ultimate

weaving driver. Not to be trusted, but certainly not to be messed

with either.

By these terrible means, they will create a world where war conducted

by any country but the United States will seem simply too risky and

the Great American Peace will begin. Unregulated Global Corporatism

will be the only permissible ideology, every human will have access

to McDonald¹s and the Home Shopping Network, all ³news² will come

through some variant of AOLTimeWarnerCNN, the Internet will be run by

Microsoft, and so it will remain for a long time. Peace. On Prozac.

If I were in charge, this is neither the flavor of peace I would

prefer nor the way I would achieve it. But if I¹d been in charge back

in 1983, there might still be a Soviet Union and we might all still

be waiting for the world to end in fifteen nuclear minutes.

Of course, I could be completely wrong about this. Maybe they

actually are possessed of a madness to which there is no method.

Maybe they really do intend to invade Iraq and for no more noble

reason than giving American SUVs another 50 years of cheap gas.

We¹ll probably know which it¹s going to be sometime in the next

fortnight.



By then, I expect to be dancing in Brazil, far from this heart of

darkness and closer to the heart itself.

http://www.interesting-people.org/archi ... 00186.html

I don't know, I kind of hope he is joking, I am hoping that I am to stupid to understand his subtle reasoning.

[jimboloco]

Oh, Selfrigde Air Farce Base, does that bring back memories.

I went there senior year in high school to take a physical in my thwarted attempt to get into the Air Farce Acadummy. Fortunately, I got the first alternate nomination and so instead went to the University of Michigan, where I was a stellar Air Farce ROTC cadet, mmmm, seems like I got expozed to a lot of dissent as well. Anyhow, I also went to Selfridge for my Air farce ROTC physical before I was sworn in as a professional cadet my junior year, and in Decemburrr 1968 hopped an old KC-47 tanker from Selfridge to Travis Air farce base in Oakland,(where a red-haired bozo in Haight-Ashbury offered us some cookies,) mercy a sweet ten hour flight and we had both the rear window at the boom and the immense Star Wars cockpit where we stood and watched the unfolding panorama unfolddd, a slow ponderous prop job, fun.

From there we hopped a Naval transport at Alameda Naval-gazing station
down to Los Angeles without any keys or clues, just celebrating our global outreach. Then saw the Roze Bowl parade and returned via Air Farce transport to Webb Air Farce base in San Antone (remember the Alamo and how the Yellow Rose mulatto maiden got Santa Ana to be caught by Sam Houston with his pants down?) and somehow that global outreach brought us back to Selfrigde where, I bet, there are ultra-modern (DC-3) KC-97 tankers now, ready to escort all the bombers and fighters and stealth war planes to just about anywhere and back, don't piss in your pants, noble air warriors, it'z a long flight back to momma, meanwhile yer killing mammas far away.

My wife has this gay friend who she used to work with. We’d had lunch together a few times at Cracker Barrel. Anyhow, he sent Susan this right wing diatribe against Venezuela, she forwarded it to me and I returned the reply to him and everyone on that email list, plus looked up this stupid website and replied that letter to them as well, with 2 entries from the latest VVAW Veteran paper. And I said that it was right wing propaganda BS, they stated that Venezuela was using sales from CITGO to finance terrorist activities and is a threat to the USofA. I painted the kettle black as it were. Suzie said that Curtis was not pleased.

Yet here is this 50 year old gay male, who votes for Cheney. He's brainwashed.

Chrizt man I don't go anywhere near Dickhead or anyone else in the presiduncial entourage, kudos to you, amigo. Did you get any eye contact? if I'd been there listening to his wrangled bullshit, I'da lost it.
Nice posting, by the way Texazz Trucker down-by-the-old-railroad
where the Texazz buzzardz drop their turds. We know you a guru-swami.

By th way, on my return from flying C-7 cargo planes in the Nam, I refused duty whilst training to fly the (Boeninggg 707) KC-135 tankers, Jan of '72. Mercy how times can change the road you're on.