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Powhatan's Chimney

Post by Sober Duck » August 14th, 2005, 12:58 pm

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This massive chimney is all that is left of the house Captian John Smith built for the great Indian Chief Powhatan.

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Post by Doreen Peri » August 14th, 2005, 2:07 pm

Cool!

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Post by jimboloco » August 15th, 2005, 11:27 am

http://www.co.gloucester.va.us/POWHATANCHIMNEY.HTM

what i gotta figure out if this is real, man.... :?:

is absinthe beyond the pale?
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Post by jimboloco » August 15th, 2005, 11:30 am

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http://www.co.gloucester.va.us/POWHATANCHIMNEY.HTM
linked to Pocahontis, the Powhatanchi daughter popular folk culture, news that old chimney has old vibrations, too bad the genocide that followed, we always take it as fact, thats's how it played out, and so on a popular cultural level, take it for granted as well, you know, that we were forced into the Indian wars, it was our manifest destiny. I mean really, we keep this deep, inbred, we have to see things in another way

My zen friend Claude AnShin said that there is no real way to atone for past crimes, or bad deeds, but to wake up in this moment was enough, at least for a start.


this reminds me of a snippet i wrote last year.....

http://www.studioeight.tv/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1732
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"To the stall the people come to go,
Reading an obscene graffito."



Perezozo's new slogan reminds me of a time long ago.....

I was living in the Providence Hotel on the Bowery
in lower Manhattan, or was it Mid-Town, or somewhere in-between....

I was taking drawing lessons at the Art Students League.
I had this carpenter's pencil. 2B, which I liked to use cause I could hold it like a long brush and get bold strong strokes. The lead is shaped like a wedge, so you can get calligraphic : sharp lines and broad lines and easy shading.

One evening I was drunk and went to the latrine and was in this stall in the bathroom of the Providence Hotel, up on the 4th floor where my sleeping cubicle was.....I had my carpenter's pencil and started drawing a spontaneous drawing on the stall wall. It was graphite on green painted metal. I drew a picture, an emanation, large strokes from the back muscles, gesture of a woman, nude, sitting with her legs folded......as I drew her head, the nose, her high cheekbones and ripe persimmon lips appeared, looking like an Indian maiden, also her breasts were small....it was a masterpiece....and I titled it, "Pocahontis."

Later when I came back, I wanted to look at my drawing again and saw that somebody had re-titled it "Pocatits." !
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interesting but the features too Anglo, man,
the Disney version is better, if a bit jaded,
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http://www.steirerkrone.at/sendung/p/pr ... filme.html

oh well, guess if yo want it did right, i gotta do it myself, gonna remember that drawing in the stall, and redraw it.....

the Anglo version of history perpertrated by these whitening versions of who was an indigenous person is obvious.
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Post by jimboloco » August 15th, 2005, 12:11 pm


Pocahontas (1595?-1617)
AmericPocahontas (1595?-1617)
American Indian Princess


Pocahontas was said to be a beautiful and intelligent Indian princess. The daughter of the Indian Chief Powhatan, of the POWHATAN confederacy of Virginia. Her personal clan name was Matoaka. In 1608, John Smith, one of the founders of the Jamestown Settlement in Virginia, was captured by the Indians and brought to Pocahontas's village.

According to John Smith's account in his General History of Virginia, Pocahontas saved his life by placing her head over his body to protect him, when Powhatan was about to kill him. The site at which Pocahontas saved the captain has been variously placed Gloucester County; it is generally agreed that it did occur on the north bank of the York River near Werowocomoco.

The Indian princess became the intermediary between the Englishman and her father. She persuaded him to provide food to the starving colonists and at the risk of her own life, she warned the men of dangers and of planned Indian attacks.

In 1613, Pocahontas was taken captive by Captain Samuel Argall and taken to Jamestown, in an effort to force Powhatan to keep peace. During her captivity she learned the foundations of Christianity and became a Christian. As a Christian she took the name Rebecca. The following year, with her father's consent, she married John Rolfe, a tobacco planter. This began an eight-year period of peace between the Indians and colonists. Thomas was born to the couple in 1615. Pocahontas traveled to England with her husband in 1616, where she was received as royalty. She captivated the London society . During her preparation to return to America, she became ill of smallpox and died in Gravesend, England in March 1617.
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Pocahontas was said to be a beautiful and intelligent Indian princess. The daughter of the Indian Chief Powhatan, of the POWHATAN confederacy of Virginia. Her personal clan name was Matoaka. In 1608, John Smith, one of the founders of the Jamestown Settlement in Virginia, was captured by the Indians and brought to Pocahontas's village.

According to John Smith's account in his General History of Virginia, Pocahontas saved his life by placing her head over his body to protect him, when Powhatan was about to kill him. The site at which Pocahontas saved the captain has been variously placed Gloucester County; it is generally agreed that it did occur on the north bank of the York River near Werowocomoco.

The Indian princess became the intermediary between the Englishman and her father. She persuaded him to provide food to the starving colonists and at the risk of her own life, she warned the men of dangers and of planned Indian attacks.

In 1613, Pocahontas was taken captive by Captain Samuel Argall and taken to Jamestown, in an effort to force Powhatan to keep peace. During her captivity she learned the foundations of Christianity and became a Christian. As a Christian she took the name Rebecca. The following year, with her father's consent, she married John Rolfe, a tobacco planter. This began an eight-year period of peace between the Indians and colonists. Thomas was born to the couple in 1615. Pocahontas traveled to England with her husband in 1616, where she was received as royalty. She captivated the London society . During her preparation to return to America, she became ill of smallpox and died in Gravesend, England in March 1617.http://www.co.gloucester.va.us/POCAHON1.HTM
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Post by stilltrucking » August 15th, 2005, 12:41 pm

When I first moved from Virginia to Texas I had it in my head that Texas did not have a history as far back as Virginia. It stunned me to realize that the Spanish were here before the English started their colonies on the east coast. Most Texans think of them selves as westerners not southerners. But it was a confederate state. I think over half the battles in the civil war took place in Virginia. I miss the Shenandoah Valley. Going down a two-lane road, top a hill and see a vista that breaks my heart with beauty. One of my favorite drives was down Yankee Cemetery Road.

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It must have been one huge house. Are there any civil war historic sites in that area?

Jimbo the eugenics laws in Virginia were the model for Hitler's programs. Indians were colored people. Only now are the tribes there starting to regain their heritage.

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Post by jimboloco » August 15th, 2005, 5:29 pm

well, i wonder about the spanish occupation into tejas, how long it was, the eventual racial intermixing, espanyoles y indios, creole man, where the french were, mixed with indios and african-carobbean, and east indians, so the history was not anglo, i guess, altho am sure there have been a number of histories wrote about the era, some professional historian with unrecognised talent. wwho lived in what communities and when exactly did moses austin fit into this, really that's when texas history begins,
with good old moses and then stephen f austin, up on a river near the hill country, really sweet rolling olains with fertile semi-arid grassland .....who was there before? was it open country just waiting to be plucked?
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Post by jimboloco » August 15th, 2005, 6:10 pm

first it was a large revolutionary shipyard
then the brits burned it to the ground and left,

before too long it became an important trading and shipbuilding center again
went confederate then
20 years later the patriotic bands
begin to play in the gazebos in the parks all over yeah

now it be a major military sea port
mercy virginia....
all that after pocahontis
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Post by jimboloco » August 17th, 2005, 8:26 am

Werowocomocolocorococo. JA! mon.

musta been a groovy place.
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