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- hester_prynne
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It's people that co-opt religion.
No two peoples' religion can ever be exactly alike, unless one is kinda pretending doncha think? I mean, you know, one is being lazy and letting another one tell him what his religion is.....
E dog I love that joke further up man, laughed my fool head off.
Forgot myself for a minute. What a concept. Heh.
Please vote for Obama everyone.
H
No two peoples' religion can ever be exactly alike, unless one is kinda pretending doncha think? I mean, you know, one is being lazy and letting another one tell him what his religion is.....
E dog I love that joke further up man, laughed my fool head off.
Forgot myself for a minute. What a concept. Heh.
Please vote for Obama everyone.
H

"I am a victim of society, and, an entertainer"........DW
- stilltrucking
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- Axanderdeath
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i could not keep up with most of you on reading and staying interested in this. I just wanted to comment.stilltrucking wrote:Sounds like heresy to me Hester.
"Blow up you TV
Move to the country
Eat a lot of peaches
Try to find Jesus on your own"
Jesus is my real estate broker. This land was made for me and your are trespassing
do you guys even really care? and if so why.
what does it all mean anyway?
shit....
I mean is this why we are here to talk about why were here and who put us here?
I mean....
I am not edgucated enough to keep up. but I am edgucaed or unedgucated enough to write that this convo will go on for ever.
GAP
spinnin
thus spoke G.A.P.
- Axanderdeath
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- stilltrucking
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not really an accademic thing for me Geoff, it really is about Jesus.
"God is not mocked except by believers." Anne Sexton.
Sometimes I think the usa is turning into a theocracy.
We believe we are the chosen people, america is special, the country god loves the most. You used to watch a lot of tv I remember. I have watched too many TV evangelists. It is very ugly.
I wonder how the USA became such a wacko religious country. I suppose it started with the Puritians. England dumped its discontents on us.
Religion is about belonging for most people, don't feel lonely.
Speaking of the Greeks
"God is not mocked except by believers." Anne Sexton.
Sometimes I think the usa is turning into a theocracy.
We believe we are the chosen people, america is special, the country god loves the most. You used to watch a lot of tv I remember. I have watched too many TV evangelists. It is very ugly.
I wonder how the USA became such a wacko religious country. I suppose it started with the Puritians. England dumped its discontents on us.
Religion is about belonging for most people, don't feel lonely.
Speaking of the Greeks
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... i_59120280BIBLICAL ISRAEL'S CONCEPT OF TIME DIFFERS FUNDAMENTALLY from contemporary usage. In classical Hebrew thinking, there is no conceptual separation between an event and the time in which it occurs. Time, like the event or series of occurrences defining it, is a dynamic, phasic phenomenon. The distinguishing feature of Hebrew verb forms is the expression of continuity of an action rather than distinguishing between past, present, or future.
Western concepts of time, by contrast, are rooted in Greek philosophy which presumes space is the primary dimension. Time is described and conceived of in terms of a spatial phenomenon. The metaphors "time line" and "point in time" are directly derived from geometry. This derivation and analytic reduction have facilitated abstraction. Time has developed into a construct independent of time's content, and into one that lends itself to scientific measurement and categorization. Past, present, and future are its predominant qualitative characteristics, reflected, for instance, in the organizing principles of Indo-European verb formation. Indo-European verbs do recognize a sequential before-after aspect. But the primacy of spatial concepts by necessity implies a static conceptualization rather than the dynamic, rhythmic one of Hebrew thinking.
- Axanderdeath
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thanks for the tip. bukowski is not my fav writer. everthing has been boring me lately.... so maybe I will enjoy ezra pound--he was mostly a poet right? or am I wrong... 1920 paris? Hemingway and them--or was he a generation before?Totenkopf wrote:Read Ezra Pound's essays for a few months.You might obtain a different and somewhat dizzying perspective on the Literature of politics, and the politics of Lit. Even Bukowski loved EP.
about jesus. jesus seemed like a cool guy. most people that go to church say "jesus" ever second word but most of them live nowhere close to what he wanted and get away with it by saying that they don't because jesus died for thier sins so the can sin all they want. Maybe they think that if they don't sin jesus would of died in vain.
I can't stand organized religon. I try to believe in what I believe--it take just as much strenght to believe in nothing completely as somthing.
thus spoke G.A.P.
- Axanderdeath
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i was just in a rehab. I was there 2 months and we had to go to church ever morning. I hated it. the place was pretty ghetto and the janitor did some of the surmans, which is fine, but the guy had no idea what he was talking about. One person made a bit of sense, almost inspireing, but he is the guy that kicked me out of the rehab in the end.
To live you life the best that you can. when you do good you feel good, and when you do bad you feel bad. All the laws and socital norms may not go with what you feel... as loing as you are not rapeing and killing people, or other hanus shit.....
see where I am going?
To live you life the best that you can. when you do good you feel good, and when you do bad you feel bad. All the laws and socital norms may not go with what you feel... as loing as you are not rapeing and killing people, or other hanus shit.....
see where I am going?
thus spoke G.A.P.
- stilltrucking
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"only one way" Geoff, "your way" JK
Trying to see where I am going,
The Buddhists say kill the Buddha
The punks say kill the musician
Never been in rehab, have been homeless
Union Gospel Mission
If you wanted to eat
before bedtime when you were already locked in for the night
you had to listen to a preacher preach
all a dog and pony show, I sat there, got up when everybody else got up, and did not raise my hand, did not come forward, Keep my mouse shut.
all a blur except for some small town baptist preacher who said one night
"sit on it"
see where you are going?
sure
Trying to see where I am going,
The Buddhists say kill the Buddha
The punks say kill the musician
Never been in rehab, have been homeless
Union Gospel Mission
If you wanted to eat
before bedtime when you were already locked in for the night
you had to listen to a preacher preach
all a dog and pony show, I sat there, got up when everybody else got up, and did not raise my hand, did not come forward, Keep my mouse shut.
all a blur except for some small town baptist preacher who said one night
"sit on it"
see where you are going?
sure
- stilltrucking
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EP wrote essays and prose as well as poesy. Those who are not real big fans of poesy should read Pound's essays, when one has time away from a hectic schedule, presumably (EP actually disses the poesy biz quite often). Not that I always agree (see his bio on Wiki for some of the controversy). Pound provides a certain perspective on all the BS of the Literature biz (and academia). He detested Great Britain as well (tho' not all English writers----). Anyone who detests Britannia can't be all bad. Another great essay by EP (if you can take off the sentimental PC shades) is Jefferson vs. Mussolini.thanks for the tip. bukowski is not my fav writer. everthing has been boring me lately.... so maybe I will enjoy ezra pound--he was mostly a poet right? or am I wrong... 1920 paris? Hemingway and them--or was he a generation before?
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