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My Delusion
Posted: August 17th, 2007, 9:13 am
by Lightning Rod
My Delusion
you can't tell when you are being delusional
because your internal reality checks out fine
everything agrees with itself and all is right with the world
but if we are being delusional, at some point the world will intervene.
I think we are all delusional. Each of us walks around in a psychic shell
it's like a transparent omnivision movie screen
we project our version of reality on the inside of the shell
sometimes it coincides with what is going on in the real world
sometimes it does not
when it does not match, we experience a blur
from seeing what is on our screen
and at the same time seeing what is outside the screen in the arbitrary world of real things.
we can usually operate more effectively when our movie is in fairly close synch with the real world but I am delusional enough to think that this is not always the case.
sometimes the image of the world that we project on our personal screens is not only better than what is outside, but capable of changing what is outside.
That's just my delusion.
Posted: August 17th, 2007, 9:41 am
by stilltrucking
it is a tough nut to crack clay
nice stab at it.
Have you ever read A Confederacy of Dunces
by John Kennedy Toole?
The only thing that keeps my illusions, delusions, and allusions in check is my vanity.
that's mine
Posted: August 17th, 2007, 10:06 am
by gypsyjoker
LR wrote:
but if we are being delusional, at some point the world will intervene
What world?
I wish I could remember the poem
maybe ferlinghetti'
"...and they will ask, what World?"
quoted from geezer memory
Posted: August 17th, 2007, 10:17 am
by Lightning Rod
yes, the world intervenes
where the rubber meets the road
where dreams meet rent and supper
where visions meet the cold wailing wall
where desire meets rejection
where the film meets light
where the concussion of fantasy and fact
gives you permanent brain damage
Posted: August 17th, 2007, 10:44 am
by Doreen Peri
The "new age" people are promoting this concept... that you create your own reality. Some big moneymaker is calling it "The Secret"
http://thesecret.tv/
Though I agree with it to a certain degree (it's no secret that if you can dream it and
work for it, you can fill your life with fulfilling your dreams), I don't think it's just a matter of envisioning it on our personal screens which causes it to happen on the outside (like the "secret" purports) but as you said, if you project your dreams in your head, you can be more capable of changing what is outside."
That's not at all delusional. It's simply fact. This is why motivational teachers, spiritual teachers, etc., have all said that writing it down is important. You're lucky because you're a writer. You can write down your dreams with clarity and that is helpful because it helps make them concrete so you can work toward them.
Where would you like to be in 10 years or 5 years? What dreams to do you want to fulfill? How do you envision your world and how you fit into it then? Make a list. Write a poem. Put it up on the refrigerator so you look at it every day when you go get your beer.
Then, of course, there's the work involved in devising a plan to get from point A to point B.
I hope and pray all your dreams come true, Lord Rod.

And they can. Don't be delusional.

Posted: August 17th, 2007, 12:01 pm
by stilltrucking
LR wrote
where the concussion of fantasy and fact
gives you permanent brain damage
The whole thing was nicely done but those lines are
damn they are just nice
when the world intervenes
I got that quote wrong LR
it was more like "they cry out which world"
powerfull poem
Wish I could remember it
Posted: August 17th, 2007, 1:15 pm
by Arcadia
doreen:
"This is The Secret to everything - the secret to unlimited joy, health, money, relationships, love, youth: everything you have ever wanted."
I hate that someone tells me "what I ever wanted"... bad beggining...!
l-rod:
we can usually operate more effectively when our movie is in fairly close synch with the real world but I am delusional enough to think that this is not always the case.
great lines..!
Posted: August 17th, 2007, 7:21 pm
by hester_prynne
the "concussion of fantasy and fact..."
Indeed I can relate to that.
The fact of being a good singer, the fantasy of singing for a living.
The fact of being a good person, the fantasy that everyone else is too.
The fact that they tell us we are free, the fantasy that we are.
Ouch.
just gimme a stroke man.
H

Posted: August 18th, 2007, 11:29 am
by stilltrucking
Hester wrote
Ouch.
Hey what's the worse that can happen
Seems like I have been delusional about money all my life
Singing for a living
I don't know hester
I think some of us got to sing to live
Sad for me to think you unhappy just because noone will pay you to sing.
I would hester
just tell me where your coin slot is

Posted: August 18th, 2007, 11:54 am
by Artguy
delusion=concept
Posted: August 18th, 2007, 12:21 pm
by stilltrucking
concept=intuition
"consciousness of space is the lived experience in which "intuition of space" as perception and phantasy takes place"
Posted: August 19th, 2007, 12:50 pm
by stilltrucking
Clay wrote:
My Delusion
you can't tell when you are being delusional
because your internal reality checks out fine
everything agrees with itself and all is right with the world
but if we are being delusional, at some point the world will intervene.
I think we are all delusional. Each of us walks around in a psychic shell
it's like a transparent omnivision movie screen
we project our version of reality on the inside of the shell
sometimes it coincides with what is going on in the real world
sometimes it does not
when it does not match, we experience a blur
from seeing what is on our screen
and at the same time seeing what is outside the screen in the arbitrary world of real things.
we can usually operate more effectively when our movie is in fairly close synch with the real world but I am delusional enough to think that this is not always the case.
sometimes the image of the world that we project on our personal screens is not only better than what is outside, but capable of changing what is outside.
That's just my delusion.
I love this piece clay the more I read it the more I like it.
So elegant. And most of all so plain spoken
I keep farting around with phenomenology using two bit words and you said it in every day ordinary language.
Nothing more rude awakening for me than my delusions about women, that solipsized barbie doll woman in my skull and the real world woman intervening in my romantic phantasy.
Speaking of living in a delusional bubble did you read Doonesbury today sunday 08/19/07? About the bubble surrounding the white house.