Note re: poem entitled "Lobotomy"

[Doreen Peri]

The thread is missing because the author asked me to delete it. Just in case you wondered.

[Lightning Rod]

The thread is missing because the author asked me to delete it. Just in case you wondered.

What a stupid editorial mistake. That was a rich thread and 'the author' was not the only one represented there.
Go ahead and delete this too.

[Doreen Peri]

Well yeah, it probably was a stupid mistake because now everybody's going to be emailing me and asking me to delete their threads.

Oh well.

It was easiest thing to do in this case to delete it.

Sorry.

Keep in mind that on some websites, authors can delete their entire threads at any time. This software doesn't allow for that. But some people are getting used to operating that way on the net.

No big deal.

[Totenkopf]

Keep in mind that on some websites, authors can delete their entire threads at any time. This software doesn't allow for that. But some people are getting used to operating that way on the net.

Excellent point.
Keep up the good work, Madame Peri!

[Lightning Rod]

Yes, it is a big deal, doreen.
just because someone doesn't like the turn a thread has taken doesn't give them the right to delete it. The software is smart like that.
Anybody can delete their own posts if they are embarrassed the next morning by what they said the night before. All they have to do is edit the post.
But to delete the words of the four or five other contributors to that thread was wrong. There was a legitimate discussion going on there. Several people had poems on that thread and other statements which they might not have wanted gone.

I think it's fucked and I Protest

[Doreen Peri]

Sorry.
I was just trying to keep the peace.
What's done is done. Please let it go. Thanks.

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Just a note, though, that I can delete entire threads if I started them on another board I go to at any time for any reason. VBulletin software allows it. Very few people use that privilege but it's availalbe. Other software products also allow this. It's not new to the internet.

[Lightning Rod]

I don't care what other boards do or what software allows what
I think it's pussy policy to allow someone to delete an entire thread to which others have contributed. You should be free to edit your own words, but not the words of others.

Sorry, call me an American.

(PS--that would be a great line for Bush to use against war protesters--Please let it go, Thanks.)

[Doreen Peri]

Well, if you don't like how these forums are operated, I invite you to get your own forums.

The phpbb software is free. There are also free hosting services for phpbb out there though if you go that route, you will have to tolerate other people's ads on your site but still, it's free.

Or get one hosted. It only costs about $8 a month.

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One thing for certain is that anything you post on the internet is temporary. No matter what site you post it on. Save your words if you want them. There are NO guarantees. I don't guarantee this site will be here next month or even tomorrow, for instance.

So, say whatever you want about my decision. I really don't care. I made a decision and that's it.

So what?

I have asked my threads be deleted on other boards a few times myself. I understand this. What I don't understand is boards that don't allow you to delete even your originating post if you want to! It's your post! You should have the right to delete it.

[Arcadia]

are you serious?

[Doreen Peri]

No.

[Lightning Rod]

"I made a decision and that's it."

sounds like a phrase that could have been uttered by The Decider hisownself about the war in Iraq
don't try to wiggle your way out with a smiley face

no, Arcadia, it's not a joke
it's the real thing

[Doreen Peri]

That's right. I made a decision and that's it. A member asked that his thread be deleted so I deleted it. So what? What's the big deal?

You're behaving just like a troll, Lightning Rod. You're calling the webmaster a dictator ... or worse! You're calling me Bush, for crissake! You're trying to get me upset but it's not going to work.

So just stop it.

Continue doing it and I will delete this thread, too.

I don't have time for this nonsense. I have real stuff to do!

[Totenkopf]

just because someone doesn't like the turn a thread has taken doesn't give them the right to delete it. The software is smart like that.

Au contraire. There are other discussion forums. This is "creative writing." Following up a piece of creative writing--fiction, drama, even poesy--with a bunch of colloquial chit chat is quite inappropriate; even if the comments had some interesting writing, the original writer should have final editing rights (besides, I don't post on your threads, usually. And I would understand if someone deleted a comment of mine they didn't care for). Were you to lend someone a book to read, and they marked it up without your permission, you would not care for it.

You are the one being dictatorial, L-rod. I wasn't trying to start anything: merely exercising my right to control my thread. Who said I wanted you and your pals to comment on my writing? Most of the comments had nothing to with my writing--in fact some were insulting, and most were non sequiturs . It's entirely reasonable that the decision be up to the thread-starter; and since the 'ware doesn't--apparently-- allow the thread-initiator to delete or moderate comments, then a request to delete to webmaster is quite acceptable--and that's how many other opensource sites are run. (and I would not have posted the "note' either, but whatever. So delete this. )

[Lightning Rod]

I suppose you would have deleted Ahmadinejad too

I smell hypocrisy here

I'm very sensitive to this smell

correct me if I'm wrong:

you want the right to censor not only yourself but others as well?

not in my universe. Those are fighting words.

You don't own that thread. You don't own what another person says.
If you want to delete your own words, do it, they are your words.
but it is 'dictatorial' to delete someone else's words without their permission. And I'm not the one who is doing it.

I can't believe I'm even engaging in this stupid debate
I have my words saved elsewhere
I just thought that the thread was interesting, even though it went off topic. And you wanted the topic to be you. Sorry, bucko, ain't everything is about you.

[Doreen Peri]

Just for the record, I don't think a person who starts a thread should be able to pick and choose which comments they want to stay on their thread.... but I do think a person who starts a thread should be able to delete the entire thread if they want.