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My Religion

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 4:54 pm
by Lightning Rod
Religious labels always confound me
I've been a Baptist, a Buddhist and a Jain
flirted with AA and Scientology
Christian Science and The Latter Day Saints
I say hi to Allah now and then call Krishna on the telephone
I've witnessed Jehovah, been confused by Confucius
Dabbled in Crowley and LSD
Catholics are grand in their ritual
The Greeks have elegant Orthodoxy
I was an atheist for awhile, but couldn't believe it
and all the Wiccans go witchy on me.

but I must say a prayer and be realistic
I have to call myself a
Secular Mystic

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 5:02 pm
by stilltrucking
I have to call myself a
Secular Mystic
Yes
I like that.


On a peronal note:
I can see the racism in this, a woman is a woman is a rose
But Judaism is so matrilineal, for a Patriarchal religion
Never does matter who or what the father is
Jewness follows the mother's blood line
all eastern european jews supposedly descended from seven sisters who lived in primeval Europe .

I was born to Jewish parents and grandparents
if there is something to the michondrial DNA and tracing the human genome from mother to daughter all the way back to the garden I suppose I was born with a certain genetic religious disposition hard wired into my nervous system

But that is so weird
But nothing I know of that is weirder than Quantum Mechanics.
I am looking for a Quantum Theologian to enlighten me

Quantum theory was a little too weird for uncle Albert.
He called it "spooky action"

As an adult I joined the Religous Society of Friends. That is my only cult.

Not sure if the Quakers are christians or not.

"religion is about belonging, men to the right women to the left"
quoting judih from geezer memory

Quoting Dalai Lama from The Art Of Happiness
The Dalai Lama said at another juncture, as if talking to himself, that religion was not for every day; religion was for times of pain. As I recall, his exact words were, "Religion something like medicine, when no pain no need medicine; same thing religion."
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/14h.htm

The Dalai Lama divided major world religions into "God-religions" and "God-less" religions, with Buddhism in the latter category.2

His Holiness seemed to focus marvelously when in response to a question from the audience about how wealthy people and countries could find spirituality, he replied (again, I think, with a mischievous smile) that Buddhism, with its orientation toward comfortable situations, found it easier for rich people to be spiritual than poor ones! Tenzin Gyatso also tossed another bitter herb into the pot for those romantic souls who expected a continuous sweet presence in their lives from imported religious teaching which they felt lacking in their own, [saying, "Better not take someone else’s religion, plenty wisdom in your own."]
Ibid.

I suppose I am a "secular mystic too"
a heretic for sure
Spinoza's god was good enough for Einstein
it is good enough for me.


nice work clay thanks
for a chance to jam it.

:oops:
help help
I am typing and I can't stop
listening to PHC typinng along to the music
Somebody singing a Billie Holiday song
blame it on the music.

Freud founded a cult
too bad
not his intention
I believe
But I may still be Freudian
e-dog said once that Freud was the most influential thinker of the 20th century. Not Marx, Not Einstein but uncle Siggie.
I think so too
He tried to show us what is on the end of our forks.
Modern feminists still study Freud it seems
Freud and Lacan’s denial of the womb

Maybe as an artifact.
So many beautiful women martyred to his high priests

Funny how I ramble from religion to women
Maybe it was in The Future Of An Illusion that Freud said that all religion is sublimated sexuality.
The sacred feminine
I think Jung was more in touch with that.
I read his UFO's as a new religion a long time ago.

I might as well end this with something even more irrelevant :roll:
It is only rock and roll but I like it
If you ever feel lonesome when you're down in San Antone
Beg, steal or borrow two nickels or dime to call me on the phone
And I'll meet you at Alamo Mission, where we can say our prayers
The Holy Ghost and the Virgin Mother will heal us as we kneel there
In the moonlight, in the midnight, in the moonlight, midnight, moonlight

If you ever feel sorrow for the deeds you have done
With no hope for tomorrow in the setting of the sun
And the ocean is howling for the things that might have been
And that last good morning sunrise will be the brightest you've ever seen
In the moonlight, in the midnight, in the moonlight, midnight, moonlight
in the midnight moonlight grateful dead

Posted: October 15th, 2007, 4:42 am
by stilltrucking
You been batting a thousand with me lately
first time out
then this one
problem is I am stoned again and they are all running together
just going to go with the flow of these words across this line of text fornow

Jesus and Newton
I don't know much about Jesus and even less about Newton so I am checking out a NOVA dvd titled:
NEWTON'S
DARK
SECRETES

The first modern
scientist and
the last of the
ancient magicians
I talk to Nietzsche
no I listen to him
I should have just dabbled in LSD
but I made the mistake of reading him while I was tripping. Reminds me of a line from the bell jar when she was going crazy trying to read Joyce. "the letters turned into thick black worms that crawled across the page" something like that

Suprised me to learn that he was not the anti-semite that his cult made him out to be.

Jesus and Newton
Geezus h christz my short term memory
is so far gone
I can't remember which poem that was on

I got go back and find it
sorry for my confusion
I been into the bitter herbs again.

It was from simple observation

mnaz said:
"Jesus and Newton".... a great pairing, an earth dream team of sorts, action/reaction...
this all makes perfect sense to me now
I may delete later when I wake up again.
I hate this stoned riffs
when I can't remember what I rote by the time I get th the end of the scroll.

Not sure how much reaction action there is between the two
they were both magicians
And Newton saw the connection between magic and religion, according to my DVD>...

Freud claimed he never read Nietzsche
kind of hard to believe
maybe just a convergence coincidence’

maybe I should dabble somemore
check out Kierkegaard
because I ain't living long like this
but I am only three years away from seventy
which is pretty good longevity I suppose
but the more I live
the more longevity seems to bless me

always so ambivelant about life and death
i think it woud be cool to figure out how jesus pulled off that resurection trick.

Let's see Muhamed ascended directly up
and Buddha is still sitting under a tree somewhere

What the hell we going to do about the hump in the curve
where all the true believers reside.

the secular humanists, I imagine they are a growing demographic but still a sliver out on the ends of the curve.
sorry clay
ramble ramble

Posted: October 15th, 2007, 4:41 pm
by WIREMAN
I like what Elvin Bishop said while sitting on a bale of hay, "my religion? I religiously drink 2 6 packs of Budweiser each and every day!"

Posted: October 15th, 2007, 5:50 pm
by hester_prynne
This could be an epic!
We're all secular mystics aren't we?
dig it..
H 8)

Posted: October 16th, 2007, 6:13 pm
by joel
something resonate with Karen Armstrong's movement from the Christian convent tradition to general lover of Abraham's God to an openly "freelance monotheist"...

yes, epic

Posted: December 9th, 2007, 2:39 am
by mnaz
To know thyself is to know God,
or so it has been theorized.

Posted: December 9th, 2007, 7:27 am
by Dave The Dov
It's your religion worship what you want.
_________________
apollo mist plants

Posted: December 11th, 2007, 3:24 am
by e_dog
gotta love
I've witnessed Jehovah, been confused by Confucius
AND
I was an atheist for awhile, but couldn't believe it
and the ending stanza.

This is an outstanding poem, L-rod.

really well written.