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spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 1:08 am
by tarbaby
I wear the high hat
I walk with a cane
despair precedes me
being an illusionist
I can hide from it
until the time when I will need it bad
what does that mean in dog years?

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 4:22 am
by sonofthesun
nice! i am a fan. it makes me think.

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 10:23 am
by justwalt
it's a three dog night, after a dog day afternoon... no worries,

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 7:53 pm
by stilltrucking
thank you
I am a fan too

no worries
I got a rabies shot

Just rediscovering the joys of Kierkegaard and my monstrous illusions
a homage to your Horse with no name poem ty

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 8:17 pm
by SadLuckDame
Maybe it means
a couple nights spent in the dog house,
I don't know.

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 8:27 pm
by stilltrucking
must be subtle and profound
but it beats me
I feel like the bear in the old Walt Kelly Pogo strip, the bear who could write but not read.

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 9:30 pm
by short timer
I give it some more thoughts about what it is about, maybe end of life issues, I can see how despair could be a comfort. But for now my hope must rise above my despair. Yes I am the great pretender, imagine that.


I hope that helps
this the summer of my content at 72 years young

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 9:51 pm
by stilltrucking
Thank you for taking the time to reply Betsy. I value your response, your questions. Mainly it was my first thoughts about justwalt's poem a horse with no name and a line from an essay by Freud on war. What a tragic figure Freud is for me. A father figure I supose.


diid he shatter your illusions of love

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Illusions commend themselves to us because they save us pain and allow us to enjoy pleasure instead.
Kierkegaard had monstrous illusions I have heard.

Regina?

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 9:58 pm
by SadLuckDame
I'm reading a long wiki on him, but I still don't know Regine and he couldn't get to know her. Life is that way, it is supposed to be full of sad things and then we're happier with the good things we can pick up and actually spend time with it.
I am still reading. I just get troubled for women, I always want to see the woman who stands by the man and prolly I secretly like to know the women then be able to know myself more.

It bothers me that I'm not finding her enough when I read about him, she was excused and I'm working through more information on him in hopes that she wasn't, then I'll be at ease and decide if he had interesting ideas.

I wish, for my own sake, I could think more as he had and not see the marriage of men and women, but see more the importance of an individual.
It would be better,
I'd be less restless.

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 10:18 pm
by stilltrucking
regine? maybe I spelled it wrong

if you got 90 minutes you can watch this and then you will know all about Kierkegaard. That is what I did. :oops:


diid he shatter your illusions of love
I think you would be a fan of him too

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 10:24 pm
by SadLuckDame
I think I spelled her name wrong in a previous post. :P
I am reading this blog and though she's still barely there, I did find it a good information to make into better pictures for my head than what I started with.
Maybe he wasn't hat too tall on his head, it seems he didn't know if God wanted him celibate or married and was letting fate decide the rest of his life.

http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cf ... ant---2132
I forget how to make those links look neat with a few words, my apologies.

Gonna check the film you posted.

P.S. Just had a realization on you, us, it's that you might have a preference to receiving knowledge auditorily (sp) and I am not as strong in it, but I take in information visually in preference and struggle with both auditory and hands on.
Neat, huh. :P

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 10:35 pm
by stilltrucking
I am running out of time,
90 minutes
if you got the time.
in the crucible of his neuroses obsessions and suffering the base metal of his inadequacies became transformed into the essence the human condition
if you are sorting through your girls, picking a new one I think he would be a good man to know.
What makes an individual a "person" or human being is "choice of oneself"
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re :P
yes I think you are on to something there with the auditory. I have listened to that 90 minute youtube narration probably ten times or more in the past 48 hours. I got to move on to Plato next If I want to graduate this year. I got so much to learn about everything. The eternal college sophomore wants to devote himself to writing to god.

sorry about the multiple posts, second thoughts are interesting too, but mostly spontaneous.

interesting blog on K thanks for the link.

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 2nd, 2012, 11:55 pm
by Diana Moon Glampers
The Diary of A Seducer was spotted on display at an adult book store.
"The very essence of romance is uncertainty. If ever I get married, I’ll certainly try to forget the fact."
But what Oscar Wilde offered as an entertaining fiction, Kierkegaard analyzed as a life project. At the center of that project is the effort to short-circuit reality by transforming it into the product of one’s own imagination: experience, Kierkegaard wrote in “The Rotation Method,” “is reduced to a sounding board for the soul’s own music.”
http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cf ... ant---2132

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 3rd, 2012, 12:30 am
by SadLuckDame
I'd love to read his book on dread, because I know I deal with it a lot and a lot more than I like to. It was interesting, I'm not mad at him anymore.
I don't know if I fully focused the whole 90 minute, but I did pay attention each time he snagged my attentions, especially the things about his father than repeating the same teach/read style to Regine and worrying that he had, etc.

I can relate with his having fear of being himself, for I fear myself greatly and fear God, too.

Re: spontaneous despair

Posted: September 3rd, 2012, 10:02 am
by stilltrucking
Prayer does not change God, but it changes him who prays.
He was a Christian and as I understand it his monstrous illusion was Christianity as it was practiced in the 19 century.

The video is taken from this book.
Paul Strathern
Philosophers in 90 Minutes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Strathern

My ignorance is great, my time is short, I need a lot of Philosophy for Dummies books.
I am working on this one now
Spinoza in 90 Minutes
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I thought the thing about the human condition was interesting, "the agony of choice"

forgive him?

"father forgive us for what we must do, you forgive us we'll forgive you, and we'll forgive each other till we both turn blue."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G487EDeXadA