Artificial Intelligence

[mnaz]

A.I. is nothing new.
We've had it all along,
and blamed each other.

[mtmynd]

Artificial Intelligence (AI) as Fake Intelligence (FI).

[mnaz]

A.I., as in believing in
Truth all these centuries.
It won't get us past earth
with these wars going on,
but maybe someday.

[mtmynd]

A.I., as in believing in
Truth all these centuries.
It won't get us past earth
with these wars going on,
but maybe someday.

Far too many of us expect so much better from our fellow humans.
While those on that invisible other side enjoy human folly, i.e competition.

Ever see competition in Nature that doesn't better the species..?

[saw]

for many seniors, we grew up trusting
believing in this thing dubbed The American Dream
we grew up believing we were the good guys
every native american was a savage,

we trusted the prevailing narrative

later we believed our employer would never
expose us to toxins, but my boss never mentioned
cutting asbestos shingles with a Carborundum blade
would leave a possibly lethal coating of white dust on me
from head to toe, and in the Navy my commander never mentioned
the ship was loaded with friable asbestos either

we trusted we were safe on-board ship

the travels through the years expose more than that
Our eyes are forced to see new angles, become wary of new dangers
We have had cynicism thrust upon us like a wet blanket
sorry for the rambling response...it just came out this way this morning
it is rainy and battleship gray in Baltimore

your poem is succinct and I am an old windbag

[mtmynd]

for many seniors, we grew up trusting
believing in this thing dubbed The American Dream
we grew up believing we were the good guys
every native american was a savage,

we trusted the prevailing narrative

later we believed our employer would never
expose us to toxins, but my boss never mentioned
cutting asbestos shingles with a Carborundum blade
would leave a possibly lethal coating of white dust on me
from head to toe, and in the Navy my commander never mentioned
the ship was loaded with friable asbestos either

we trusted we were safe on-board ship

the travels through the years expose more than that
Our eyes are forced to see new angles, become wary of new dangers
We have had cynicism thrust upon us like a wet blanket
sorry for the rambling response...it just came out this way this morning
it is rainy and battleship gray in Baltimore

your poem is succinct and I am an old windbag

I read you, Steve... been through that disappointment more than once (with more to come, for sure).

I, too was in the USN ('65-'69), Guam and the USS Coral Sean - CVA 43... I'll never forget that time.
My only truly wonderful memory was being home docked in SFCA during 67-68... a blown mind came out alive.

[wylde]

A.I., as in believing in
Truth all these centuries.
It won't get us past earth
with these wars going on,
but maybe someday.

Far too many of us expect so much better from our fellow humans.
While those on that invisible other side enjoy human folly, i.e competition.

Ever see competition in Nature that doesn't better the species..?

succinct. i have no expectations as being part of human"kind."
that way i will not be disappointed.
but always am.
continue with some little hope, perhaps.

as for nature...not sure better always = improved, for the composite. many examples of invasive destruction. almost akin to thoughtless human greed?

[mnaz]

Not sure why we're so worried about synthetic artificial intelligence subverting us, when organic has been ramping up that same path for quite awhile..

[mtmynd]

Not sure why we're so worried about synthetic artificial intelligence subverting us, when organic has been ramping up that same path for quite awhile..

Explain this, por favor... not sure what you're saying...

[mnaz]

Any debate about "intelligence"
must've come from our brains.
Which are (at least for now, before
the takeover and for how long?)
clearly organic.

What is "intelligence?"
Centuries of propaganda?
Maybe they trip over themselves.

[wylde]

Not sure why we're so worried about synthetic artificial intelligence subverting us, when organic has been ramping up that same path for quite awhile..

data (they say) is now more valuable than oil or gold.
surely, perhaps, because that (in similar but different) ways
that leads to
POWER?

and i can see that an organic impulse is needed to drive an AI in the first place.
Then it becomes (who) has the control?




however. organically, the path to natural implosion is too "well" travelled to reverse.
only possibly slowed.
but unlikely.
as acceleration exponential.

[wylde]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/01-07- ... mentalist/

All of us who have feasted off the carcass of a dying planet bear some responsibility, but those of us who got paid to know what was happening and failed to find a way to tell you have our own special blame to carry. And for that, I am truly sorry.


i too. have to apologise. and own my own blame sadly.



...from deep in the belly of The MACHINE - pink floyd.

[mnaz]

That guy hits so many nails on the head it's unreal. We wish it were unreal at least.

It’s now clear to me that “not scaring the horses” is as irresponsible as standing in a burning building selling wet napkins instead of shouting fire.

Anyone who has made any serious attempt at following the logic through realises we are actually campaigning against industrial colonialist civilisation. For anybody in the industrialised world, this is the source of all our wealth. It’s what pays all our wages. Good luck sawing down the tree branch you are sitting on.

By now, the Earth’s immune system has rightly identified us as a virus. It’s firing up its antibodies and stimulating a fever to rid itself of the disease. We are like any other organism. Much like bacteria, with access to an abundant energy source — in our case, fossil fuels — we fill up our petri dish. We engulf or expel everything else. When we run out of energy and resources to exploit, the overblown population crashes back to something manageable; or it dies off completely. It’s not evil, it’s just the way life works.

Pretty grim outlook. Though I'd like to think we bacteria are more self-aware and capable of at least some degree of self-regulation than microbial hordes...

I wrote this little gripe with a sort of "religion as artificial intelligence" mindset. I guess the Capital-Industrial Machine is a prime example. The biggest one yet... Yet we've become so deeply intertwined with it.

[jackofnightmares]

wylde wrote:

...from deep in the belly of The MACHINE - pink floyd.

Yes Kerouac was right.

"Pretty girls make graves,. . .”

wylde wrote:

Then it becomes (who) has the control?

It beats me but for some reason I am thinking of this short story
“Meet My Maker, the Mad Molecule” JPD
I am sorry too.

"Perhaps the only true dignity of man is his capacity to despise himself." - George Santayana

thanks for the poem mnaz
Have you seen this?

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image source NY Times Dot Eart

[mtmynd]

for many seniors, we grew up trusting
believing in this thing dubbed The American Dream
we grew up believing we were the good guys
every native american was a savage,

we trusted the prevailing narrative

later we believed our employer would never
expose us to toxins, but my boss never mentioned
cutting asbestos shingles with a Carborundum blade
would leave a possibly lethal coating of white dust on me
from head to toe, and in the Navy my commander never mentioned
the ship was loaded with friable asbestos either

we trusted we were safe on-board ship

the travels through the years expose more than that
Our eyes are forced to see new angles, become wary of new dangers
We have had cynicism thrust upon us like a wet blanket
sorry for the rambling response...it just came out this way this morning
it is rainy and battleship gray in Baltimore

your poem is succinct and I am an old windbag

I read you, Steve... been through that disappointment more than once (with more to come, for sure).