Whose Idea of Heaven?

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Whose Idea of Heaven?

Post by Lightning Rod » November 28th, 2004, 2:02 pm

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"psst..Do you think we can sneak into Paradise?"


What will determine the outcome of the current strife in our world will be whose idea of Heaven prevails.

This is why the Christian Right is circling the wagons. These guys are scared. They are scared, not of going to Hell, because in their conceit they assume they will be part of the elect; what they are afraid of is that the Christians whose nickels hit the plate every Sunday morning will find out about this other Heaven enjoyed by Muslims.

I mean there is nothing wrong with eternal peace, piped in hymns and sitting at the throne of god all day long admiring His majesty and all that, but it hardly compares to hot tubs full of virgins that feed you ambrosia in gardens of earthly delight. If people of faith start comparison shopping, the Christian business could go the way of mom and pop stores when Wal-Mart hits town.

It's like the difference between Branson, Mo and Las Vegas. Branson has Andy Williams and the Gatlin Bros. singing hymns and Vegas has gambling, free drinks and gourmet buffets, six-foot show girls with forty inch bust-lines, drag-shows, and you can be married by Elvis. Where would you rather spend eternity?

So it's understandable why the Christians are edgy about the subject of Heaven. They are anxious to guard their franchise from foreign competition. They must feel like GM and Ford felt like when the Japanese started making cars that would get forty miles per gallon when the old Fords and Chevys were getting fifteen. What did Detroit do? They redesigned and retooled.

That's what the Christians should do about Heaven if they really want to get market share. They need an extreme makeover. Fashion-wise, Heaven is still in the late Renaissance. What's with the robes and harps? It looks like a cult up there. Get a little style and variety, you guys. Think Hip-Hop. To make Heaven really sell, you need Malls up there full of boutiques and gift shops and gambling arcades. Oh, yeah, Starbucks. Make a deal with The Gap and Victoria's Secret.

And all this piece and tranquility stuff has got to go. To make heaven an exciting place we need professional sports and gambling and violent movies and video games. Loud music. Ice skating rinks. When you are selling salvation, you have to give the customer what he wants. Heaven is big enough for a NASCAR track, right?

I don't want to be a party pooper here, but I must tell you, the Hell thing is a definite liability. You need to get rid of it. I know the carrot and stick method has worked well in the Heaven Timeshare scam for centuries, but this is a new age of marketing. You want ALL the customers, not just the righteous. I recommend amnesty. If you abolished Hell, it would solve the immigration problem. Low income housing would be a good solution to this. Put the semi-righteous and the downright sinners in the slums, not in Hell. That way they can still get to the Wal-Mart. Even Heaven has an economy. The only possible purpose for Hell would be as a place to get immigrant workers, and since the wages of sin are low these days, perhaps you could outsource jobs there.

The Poet's Eye sees that the real immigration problem will develop on the border between Heaven and Paradise. The economy is bound to be much better in Paradise because houris and ambrosia and steamy, lush gardens and fleshly pleasures just sell better than prayers and harp music. This means that the souls in Heaven will be encouraged to swim the River Stix much as the Mexicans swim the Rio Grande, in order to seek a more glorious and affluent afterlife. Even the dead want to be upwardly mobile. I wonder if illegal immigrants from Heaven can get a driver's license in Paradise? Will there be terrorist angels?


The Poet's Eye blinks and wonders: Whose version of Heaven will sell?

To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.---from Kubla Kahn
by Samuel Taylor Coleridge[/img]
"These words don't make me a poet, these Eyes make me a poet."

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » December 1st, 2004, 11:56 am

A fun group of quotes. Jefferson's is my favorite . . .I think.

My idea of heaven would be the ability to think up melodies like Richard Rodgers:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Rodgers


This is a strong essay, LR.


--Z


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HEAVEN QUOTATIONS

Albert Einstein:
I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern without any superhuman authority behind it.



Ambrose Bierce:
Heaven, n.: A place where the wicked cease from troubling you with talk of their personal affairs, and the good listen with attention while you expound your own.

The Devil's Dictionary



Amos Bronson Alcott:
Who loves a garden still his Eden keeps,
Perennial pleasures plants, and wholesome harvest reaps.



Amy Tan:
I am like a falling star who has finally found her place next to another in a lovely constellation, where we will sparkle in the heavens forever.






Elizabeth Barrett Browning:
Earth's crammed with heaven,
And every common bush afire with God;
And only he who sees takes off his shoes;
The rest sit round it and pluck blackberries.



Emily Dickinson:
What is—"Paradise"—
Who live there—
Are they "Farmers"—
Do they "hoe"—
Do they know that this is "Amherst"—
And that I—am coming—too—


This entry continued ...

Emily Dickinson:
Heaven is so far of the Mind
That were the Mind dissolved—
The Site—of it—by Architect
Could not again be proved—

'Tis vast—as our Capacity—
As fair—as our idea—
To Him of adequate desire
No further 'tis, than Here—



Emily Dickinson:
My life closed twice before its close;
It yet remains to see
If Immortality unveil
A third event to me,
So huge, so hopeless to conceive,
As these that twice befell.
Parting is all we know of heaven,
And all we need of hell.



Emily Dickinson:
Parting is all we know of heaven and all we need of hell.



Emily Dickinson:
I hope you love birds, too. It is economical. It saves going to Heaven.



Emily Dickinson:
Who has not found the heaven below
Will fail of it above.
God's residence is next to min,
His furniture is love.



Emily Dickinson:
Why—do they shut Me out of Heaven?
Did I sing—too loud?
But—I can say a little "Minor"
Timid as a Bird!


This entry continued ...

Ernest Dowson:
They are not long, the weeping and the laughter,
Love and desire and hate:
I think they have no portion in us after
We pass the gate.
They are not long, the days of wine and roses;
Out of a misty dream
Our path emerges for a while, then closes
Within a dream.



Goethe:
We are our own devils; we drive ourselves out of our Edens.



H. L. Mencken:
Democracy is only a dream: it should be put in the same category as Arcadia, Santa Claus, and Heaven.



Isaac Asimov:
I don't believe in an afterlife, so I don't have to spend my whole life fearing hell, or fearing heaven even more. For whatever the tortures of hell, I think the boredom of heaven would be even worse.



John Milton:
The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make heaven of Hell, and a hell of Heaven.



John Milton:
The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make heaven of Hell, and a hell of Heaven.



Mark Twain:
Travel has no longer any charm for me. I have seen all the foreign countries I want to except heaven & hell & I have only a vague curiosity about one of those.



Mark Twain:
The inventor of their heaven empties into it all the nations of the earth, in one common jumble. All are on an equality absolute, no one of them ranking another; they have to be "brothers"; they have to mix together, pray together, harp together, hosannah together--whites, niggers, Jews, everybody--there's no distinction. Here in the earth all nations hate each other, and every one of them hates the Jew. Yet every pious person adores that heaven and wants to get into it. He really does. And when he is in a holy rapture he thinks he thinks that if he were only there he would take all the populace to his heart, and hug, and hug, and hug!

Letters from the Earth



Mark Twain:
Let us swear while we may, for in Heaven it will not be allowed.



Mark Twain:
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.



Mark Twain:
The secret source of humour itself is not joy, but sorrow. There is no humour in heaven.





Pearl S. Buck:
I feel no need for any other faith than my faith in the kindness of human beings. I am so absorbed in the wonder of earth and the life upon it that I cannot think of heaven and angels.



Rabbi Zusya:
In the world to come, I shall not be asked, "Why were you not Moses?" I shall be asked, "Why were you not Zusya?"



Ralph Waldo Emerson:
To different minds, the same world is a hell, and a heaven.



Robert A. Heinlein:
How you behave toward cats here below determines your status in Heaven.



Robert F. Kennedy:
But suppose God is black? What if we go to Heaven and we, all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior, and God is there, and we look up and He is not white? What then is our response?





Robert Ingersoll:
Few nations have been so poor as to have but one god. Gods were made so easily, and the raw material cost so little, that generally the god market was fairly glutted and heaven crammed with these phantoms.



Samuel Butler:
A lawyer's dream of Heaven: Every man reclaimed his own property at the resurrection, and each tried to recover it from all his forefathers.



Thomas Jefferson:
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all.

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