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Post by zero_hero » July 11th, 2011, 11:57 am

:D :!: :!: :!: :?:
:) :) :) :) :) :) I can't stop myself sittiing here with the ocean in my mouth
salt encrusted skin
sun burn wind burned'
how did this happen :?
who cares just a :o
four mintues to check out
10:56 am in the republic of paradise
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Post by zero_hero » July 11th, 2011, 4:33 pm

we know so much about Titus king of the mountain gorillas
do we learn anything about ourselves
creativity in science
interests me
part of my disease I suppose

Titus followed into exile by several of his females
but it is the females who decide the king

boy oh boy
here I am on south padre isleand I can't stop smiling
I have the taste of the ocean in my mouth and on my skin
sun burned wind burned
a wake up call one I have constantly ignored
thinking about a body I saw on the beach in ocean city maryland

a fat man like a beached whale
the way I am headed
no balance here Soozen
just an urge to write
to think about gray matter and white matter and Rosiland Franklin with her x-ray crystalography that won the nobel prize for Watson and Crick
she thinking like some silly girl they said did not want to release her work yet, still going over it, even if she was wrong about the structure they say, but the men knew it was a race for the glory, for the prize, so they took her work and trashed her.

oh well just a feminist rant

balance
life against death
sorry for the ramble
just my protestand work ethic :) :wink:
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Post by zero_hero » July 11th, 2011, 4:36 pm

deleted and moved to here
from here

connect the dots
be fruitfull and multiply
live in hope die in vain

it all went by in a blur
watching a grackle on the balcony
Mr or Mz Grackle have you full filled your function
have you passed on your dna?

Malachi Constant
The sirens of Titan
I have a message
If I had a hammer...
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Post by zero_hero » July 12th, 2011, 8:47 pm

The Universe was a damned silly place at best… but the least likely explanation for its existence was the no-explanation of random chance, the conceit that some abstract somethings "just happened" to be some atoms that "just happened" to get together in configurations which "just happened" to look like consistent laws and then some of these configurations "just happened" to possess self-awareness ...
No, Jubal would not buy the "just happened" theory, popular as it was with men who called themselves scientists. Random chance was not a sufficient explanation of the Universe — in fact, random chance was not sufficient to explain random chance; the pot could not hold itself. (UC)


Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land (1960)
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Post by zero_hero » July 12th, 2011, 9:01 pm

"Stop telling God what to do with his dice." — Niels Bohr


A response to Einstein's assertion that "God doesn't play dice"; a similar statement is attributed to Enrico Fermi
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr#Quotes

Quote____________________________________________________________________

Bohr, the eminent Danish physicist, was awarded something called the
Order of the Elephant in 1947 -- one of the highest honors that can be
bestowed on a Danish citizen. Ordinarily, the Order is awarded to
royalty, who emblazon it with their family coat of arms and their
family inscription. Bohr -- possessing neither a coat of arms or an
inscription -- designed his own. He chose the Yin-Yang symbol as the
coat of arms, and inscribed it "Contraria sunt complementa"
--opposites are complementary.

And therein hangs a tale.

Bohr and his colleagues, including Heisenberg, Einstein, and other
luminaries of 20th century physics -- grappled with the seeming
duality of physical quanta. Was light a wave or particle?
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle made matters even worse -- not only
do we not know if light is a wave or a particle, but we can't know
sure precisely where the wave/particle of light *is* or how fast it is
moving.



Bohr's approach to reconciling these contradictions is his philosophy
of complementarity, which served as a narrowly-focused approach to his
physics, as well as a broader approach (used by Bohr and others) to
viewing the larger issues of life. Complementarity is as much about
language and knowledge, as it is about physics, as it acknowledges the
imperfect nature of language for describing the physical world, but
recognizes it's the best tool we have just the same. As Bohr himself
noted:

"Washing dishes and language can in some respects be compared. We have
dirty dishwater and dirty towels and nevertheless finally succeed in
getting the plates and glasses clean. Likewise, we have unclear terms
and a logic limited in an unknown way in its field of application--
but nevertheless we succeed in using it to bring clearness to our
understanding of nature."


http://www.ptb.de/en/publikationen/blic ... /bohr.html
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Post by zero_hero » July 13th, 2011, 6:16 pm

Science and Spirituality
editors note on
The Priest-Physicist Who Would Marry Science to Religion

Polkinghorne zeros in on the baffling behavior of the quantum world—on the same sorts of experiments that so confounded Einstein. I say “baffling” because quantum events appear to unfold in a statistical, sometimes random way That unpredictability might mask some deeper hidden mechanism, and in olkinghorne’s view that mechanism could actually be a divine intelligence. It’s clever argurement and yet, to me, and oddly narrow one. It reats God as a article physicist, monkeying with reality one electron at a time. It ignores the far grander marvel of the universe as a whole.

Here I find Einstein’s brand of scientific spirituality more satisfying. Flollowing the ideas of rationalist philosopher Baruch Spinoza, Einstein concieved of God as defined by the laws of physics, and vice versa. In this view, scientific inquiry is a spiritual undertaking no matter what perspective you start from. To those with traditional religious faith (if I may use such a broad brush), studing the cosmos is communing with the work of the Creator. To those who start form a materialistic sopot, science is a way to understand laws that connect us to everything else out there, across space and time. Either way, the vastness beyond ourselves in humbling our ability to comprehned so much of it is exhilarating. .

Einstein’s views are worth repeating at greater length, not only as a summary of Spinozan philosophy but also as a different kind of bridge between the two sides—a demonstration that science can have its own brand of morality. “ Spinoza was the first to apply with strict consistency the idea of an all-pervasive determinism to humble thought, feeling and action” Einstein wrote in 1932. “In my opinion, his point of view has not gained general acceptance by all those striving for clarity and logical rigor only because it requires not only consistency of thought, but also unusual integrity, magnanimity, and—modesty”



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Post by zero_hero » July 13th, 2011, 6:22 pm

The Priest-Physicist Who Would Marry Science to Religion
John Polkinghorne leads a disparate group of scientists on the controversial search for God within the fractured logic of quantum physics.

by Zeeya Merali

Quantum physicist Antoine Suarez of the Center for Quantum Philosophy in Zurich argues that the God seekers are better off pursuing another quantum effect, entanglement. In entanglement, two particles become twinned in such a way that the measurement of one always determines the properties of the other, no matter how far apart they may be. Imagine setting up a pair of entangled quantum "coins" (such as photons with a specific orientation), then giving one to Alice in Oxford and another to Bob in Zurich. When you ask Alice and Bob to flip their coins, they would both get heads or both get tails, even though the results of the tosses should be random and independent. Most physicists accept entanglement as just one more counterintuitive reality of quantum physics. But Suarez claims entanglement tests conducted with real photons in the lab suggest that quantum effects must be caused by "influences that originate from outside of space-time."





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Post by SadLuckDame » July 13th, 2011, 6:41 pm

Oh! I get it, like us two...
I being in a tangle with you. :P

I don't knows that I even go to sleep without you
cause in some dreams I think I see traces of you there. Is that what it means in entanglement? Where we're looped?
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Post by stilltrucking » July 13th, 2011, 6:51 pm

I am entangled up in blue
with you too

I always liked that Dylan song
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Post by SadLuckDame » July 13th, 2011, 7:01 pm

I thought it was just gonna be one of those swooning moments...
ya know the kind that just amuse ya shortly and then it moves on to the next,
but it hasn't been likes that.

Sometimes I'm astonished :P haha
(back where the beginning was, only it's hard to tell a beginning)

Yes, you and I have been merry on the merry-go-round and I likes to be tangled with you instead of some big mean jerk or a dumb push-over or Jo, even though she's got long lashes.

Mayhaps ya packed me in that little bag and have me at the beach.
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Post by constantine » July 13th, 2011, 7:10 pm

fascinating thread - as usual! though i must confess, at times i feel like a voyeur. be that as it may, i would just like to add that i have long eyelashes too!

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Post by SadLuckDame » July 13th, 2011, 7:29 pm

LOL! I mean it as it's tempting, so I likes long lashes, too. :P
My apologies on the tang.

But, mr. u, what happens when I thinks you are Jack?
Mingo's Jack, and Jack is Catfish.

I think it makes guys mad when girls get in the way, girls shouldn't get everything's all mushy and sweet or should practice not to, but I'm learning social ques.
It's a process.

I don't knows that I'm all that good at the efforts. :P
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
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Post by stilltrucking » July 13th, 2011, 10:46 pm

Beats me dame


I am autistic that way

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Post by SadLuckDame » July 14th, 2011, 4:01 pm

HaHa ya gots me thinking about the beat and the King and the women.




`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Re: south padre island

Post by constantine » July 14th, 2011, 5:03 pm

i'm just a singer in a rock and roll band. as alexander said to the queen of persia -he too is alexander.

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