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Hanshan

Posted: August 6th, 2008, 9:25 am
by tinkerjack
My five-word poems number five hundred,
My seven-word poems seventy-nine,
My three-word poems twenty-one.
Altogether, six hundred rhymes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanshan_%28poet%29

Posted: August 6th, 2008, 11:42 am
by stilltrucking
I do not have time

Posted: August 7th, 2008, 9:55 am
by the mingo
I checked this guy out - I thought I was the only one who wrote on trees...Rats!...another delusion dead on the trail... ya just can't move fast enough in this world...

Posted: August 7th, 2008, 4:07 pm
by stilltrucking
I get a bright idea I get curious so I google it
I seem to have a flair for the obvious
sometimes I get a million hits for my orignal thought
sometimes I pitch a no hitter every time there is a blue moon

"cry for the sky" was pretty fresh
got some hits but not exactly
closest one was
"River, Cry for the sky"
a pretty song

Hanshan recent discovery for me
somebody mentioned him on that "social isolation thread" of Doreen's

hanshan aka the "cold mountain hermit" or cold mountain buddha
not sure I found this very interesting link about him. He had to keep a low profile for some reason.
In the entire history of Chinese culture, no other poet of singular stature has managed to preserve the veil of mystery concerning his true identity as well as Cold Mountain, and I propose that this was not literary conceit but a matter of life or death.

http://www.hermitary.com/articles/han-shan.html


a cold mountain sounds so good to me in this sultry august day in south central texas.


I rode over to see the bear today on my motor cycle
seemed like I had a choice
not wear a helmet and take a chance of getting a road rash on my forehead or wear a helmet and get a heat stroke
Surfermike hardly ever come around anymore, on litkicks he told a stroy about a soldier in vietnam who was too afraid to take his helmet off on a day like this or worse. Interesting story,


only mad dogs and gringos go out in the noon day sun.

siesta time

more about dead dogs later.
thanks for reading
the mingo

Posted: August 7th, 2008, 5:22 pm
by mtmynd
han-shan poem (in part) -

what does he have at home
a shelf full of nothing but books
.
The link speaks of Han-Shan's biography and brings up the years 755-763. i imagine that to be measured thru C.E.. and that's a long time ago. it amused me (i amuse easily) that Han-Shan wrote about someone and his shelf full of books 1240 years ago or so. Gutenberg's printing press in Europe was invented around 1439. Odd discrepancy. Maybe in China at the time, books were written by hand one at a time.

((i wish things like that didn't catch my eye. it slows me down and i go into the wonder-mode. i should be used to it by now... been doing it for so long... many times at the expense of all other things. habit? methinks not. it's just a draw... i get drawn to it like i do chocolate or tits... it's my nature...))

Posted: August 7th, 2008, 6:21 pm
by stilltrucking
Maybe it is the translation. Scrolls translated as books?

This talks about the first "printed books" at the end of the T'ang dynasty which was about the time of HanShan but they sound like scrolls. Interesting article describes how as early as 125 CE stones were carved with text and inked then paper layed on top of the to reverse print the text.
The first printed book: AD 868

The earliest known printed book is Chinese, from the end of the T'ang dynasty. Discovered in a cave at Dunhuang in 1899, it is a precisely dated document which brings the circumstances of its creation vividly to life.

It is a scroll, 16 feet long and a foot high, formed of sheets of paper glued together at their edges. The text is that of the Diamond Sutra, and the first sheet in the scroll has an added distinction. It is the world's first printed illustration, depicting an enthroned Buddha surrounded by holy attendants. In a tradition later familiar in religious art of the west, a small figure kneels and prays in the foreground. He is presumably the donor who has paid for this holy book
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/Pla ... oryid=ab78
I like what I read so far Cecil, I am a hermit
I figured that out from the Social Isolation Thread of doreen's.

Been playing an image from memory
a december day sailing my boat on the Severn River thirty five or thirty six years ago. As good as it ever got for me. I got that locked in my heart, I would like to fade away thinking about it.
I got all these crumbs of happiness stored up
Hope I get to make some more happy memories while I got time.

I Like this one from one of HanShan's poem a lot
face brown, head white, content with mountain life
cloth robe pulled tight, I accept my karma.

And in another poem:


An old man alone on a darkening ridge
retiring to my hut I accept white hair
but sigh that today and the years gone by
are mindless, like the rivers flowing east.


I accept my karma at long last
shoot me while I am happy the great blues man said

aint it all so beautiful.

Posted: August 7th, 2008, 8:52 pm
by the mingo
wow the last poem by Hanshan in your post went monster in my head...i'm still staring at... God bless how did I miss this guy?... I read alot of the Asian poets once upon a time and thought I was well acquainted, seems I've been mistaken about that...soon as I'm done answering up here I'm gone to google this myself...and, yes, it does show beautiful from time to time,st, - how I'd love to fill the spaces 'tween those times until they were one continous moment forever. Thanks for mentioning this, st, if a poem comes from all this I'll sure be mentioning your name at the top.

Posted: August 7th, 2008, 9:13 pm
by stilltrucking
I stopped over to see HanShan to day
The old man looked pretty good
considering his age.

"The world revolves around the hand that writes" Amos Oz

Posted: August 8th, 2008, 12:13 am
by mtmynd
Han-Shan's link, the Hermitary, looks like a great place to get lost in. I haven't yet but bookmarked it... thx to you, truck.

Posted: August 8th, 2008, 8:19 am
by stilltrucking
this is what hooked me on his poetry
My five-word poems number five hundred,
My seven-word poems seventy-nine,
My three-word poems twenty-one.
Altogether, six hundred rhymes.
Remember that poem by constantinople Click (just goofing, I'll put a link there later)

And the next dot would be
Our discussion of "formless" on that long tiresome THREAD OF MINE about the Cassady and Ginsberg Video?

I got holes in my knowledge of philosophy you could drive trucks through.

But Thomas Jefferson said he was kind of disapointed with Plato.

I like HanShan cause the form is so simple

Remember those five word jams on GO?

Everybody lost interest now that pastor joel don't come round no more

Happy in new berlin this morning
spent the night
morning rain clouds chugging by
coming off the third coast of the united states
on there way north east
to blow somebody good or ill

look at these things
I keep no word count
line count
punctuation
just kicking these keys

clinging to life
my hands grow weaker
my brain saying good bye to my ass.

Posted: August 8th, 2008, 9:32 am
by the mingo
Man, I checked out Hanshan - it just goes on & on - I love Google, it's tailor made for imaginations and gives ya the ability to strike while the iron is hot..."kicking the keys", yeah, I hear you on that...

Posted: August 8th, 2008, 10:24 am
by stilltrucking
stilltrucking wrote:
And the next dot would be
Our discussion of "formless" on that long tiresome THREAD OF MINE about the Cassady and Ginsberg Video?
Cecil I had to go back and edit that line, it was not a long tiresome STREAM, it was a long tiresome THREAD of mine to general
Our discussion of "formless" on that long tiresome stream about the Cassady and Ginsberg Video?
here

I thought I might have given you the impression your streams tiresome. not by a long shot,


It I ever win the lotto I am going to buy five thousand subscriptions to all those scholary journals that lock me out.
plases like jstor.

Yes google been a blessing to posers like me, my eyes so much bigger than my brain, but I like that quote by the suicidal old Jew
"what we can't reach running we have to reach limping" a very mangled quote of Freud's mingo, i will google it when I can.

I spent the night out in the country
and baby sitting the Bear's dogs.
eating a lot of nectarines

I am out in the country the country this morning
first time I have seen a decent sunrise in months
I can hardly see the horizon were I live

The net sure has changed in ten yeas, Since I started with my 300 baud modem


What browser are you using?
I am using I.E. on the computer I am using this morning
and it sucks bad
hard to open two windows at the same time without losing the content of an open text box. I miss those tabs on IE 7.

Spontanaeity
Yes I love it
but the way I spell makes me a language criminal
I had to become annonymouse on the net
I got a group of assassins from the M.L.A want to kill me.

Just a go
but I try to go back and edit so Cecil don't start shooting those arrows back at me
he go <sic> is is it {sic} or (sick) 8)
so very cool
but he is right
for as much as I am getting paid to write this
I should take more pride in it
because I too believe if it is worth doing
it is worth doing right
but I go for the spantaniety
that is why I should not post anymore on creative

I am grateful to you guys for lanting me ramble on your various columns and artlogs.

anyway clean this up later.

Posted: August 8th, 2008, 12:42 pm
by the mingo
hey ya got a permanent welcome at my place...I never use IE...it screws with my head and my 'puter's chip...Nancy has me set up with something called Firefox, its how I get to Google...also got something called Flock...I use that to get to the pogo gamesite where I play chess. For some reason Firefox & pogo don't mesh well so I use this other for that. Its more complicated than I like but what can ya do? Its needing things and not love that moves the world, not that I'm dissing love, God knows we need more of that, but each of us needing things is the real jazz of life.

Posted: August 8th, 2008, 12:51 pm
by stilltrucking
they say it was supposed to read
"life libety and the pursuit of property"
But then thomas jefferson ate some of Dolly Madison's hash brownies and he changed the wording to "happiness"

Yes I need things to be happy

Steve Martin made a movie based on my life:

I am afraid to open another window to search for an image so I will try my hand at hypertext markup language

http://www.geocities.com/smilingjacky/jerk.jpg

Posted: August 9th, 2008, 12:06 am
by mtmynd
personally i'm a firefoxer (are female users firefoxettes..?) and i like that.... it allows me to write and get corrected in spelling immediately... right click and word's corrected by choosing which one you wanted for real...

i went back to that thread, jack... that was a long one... good thing i'm in reasonably good health... i would've passed out during that thread if i wasn't. was anything accomplished? i really don't see what was, but maybe i'm missing something... afterall it's running up on 10:p. right now and i didn't have my beauty nap today and we gots to get up around 4:30a. to get ready for the farmer's market we do every saturday... supplementing incomes can be a bitch, but the folks there are good people... i talk to them and they talk back.

what was i talking about? damn that crs gets bad late at night.

i'll shout out to you tomorrow... sometime.

g'night (that's my aussie thing i picked up form feral911, later known as feral on old liticks... remember him?), jack...

psst: i use firefox mozilla thunderbird, too.

10:05p.