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Oliver North and The Warrior Class, Barbara Ehrenreich

Post by stilltrucking » November 8th, 2009, 7:27 am

Watching bill moyers journal last night a veteran's day show.
The Good Soldier.
"I just killed thirty people for you and you are calling me a consciencious objector?"
Jim Massey

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Reading a collection of Barbara Ehrienreich essays called "The Worst Years of Our Lives"

"I have been thinking about the Warrior Caste ever since a remoarkable book, Klaus Theweleit's Male Fantasies, introduced me to a group of men who might be considered the pyschological prototype of the modern warrior elete the German Freikorpsmen."

Freikorpsmen whose letters and diaries Theweleit analyzes did not just hate women, in a way they did not even see women including their own wives(dash)except as intruders, threats, yawning "swamps" in which a man could be engulfed.

"As feminists we may honor myths and tales of women warriors, but, overwhelmingly and throughout history, women have inhabited a world that warriors leave behind, or arrive at only to destroy."

"...as long as the male career trajectory is a movement from a world centered on women (mothers) to a world in which there are no women, "growing up" for men will always mean growing away from women. And for men who "grow up" women will always be reminders of their own vulnerability and helpless infancy. Women will be feared, contemned, or perhaps merely paronized as incomplete and childish versions of men"
Barbara Ehrenriech.

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Post by SadLuckDame » November 8th, 2009, 9:17 pm

except as intruders, threats, yawning "swamps" in which a man could be engulfed.
This is what I think you'd prolly think.
I can't say I'd blame ya.
But, damn.
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
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Post by stilltrucking » November 9th, 2009, 5:19 am

No, that is not what I think, that is what Barbara Ehrenreich thinks about the Warrior Caste.
"I have been thinking about the Warrior Caste ever since a remoarkable book, Klaus Theweleit's Male Fantasies, introduced me to a group of men who might be considered the pyschological prototype of the modern warrior elete the German Freikorpsmen."

Freikorpsmen whose letters and diaries Theweleit analyzes did not just hate women, in a way they did not even see women including their own wives(dash)except as intruders, threats, yawning "swamps" in which a man could be engulfed.
But maybe I do think about swamps when I go through a department store and avoid going through the women's lingerie section. I never walk through it, I go around because it seems like the Great Dismal Swamp to me. It gives me the willies to see them all hanging there. But I am so happy to see a woman wearing them.
My favororite song about women's undies

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Post by SadLuckDame » November 9th, 2009, 6:08 pm

Don't worry, I think I was just being a brat.
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Post by stilltrucking » November 10th, 2009, 8:59 am

I wondered. I thought maybe you missed the quote

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Post by SadLuckDame » November 10th, 2009, 12:38 pm

I was just trying to razz you, trying to get a rise out of you. Tempers are contagious and I'd wanted to have one of my own.
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Post by stilltrucking » November 10th, 2009, 7:06 pm

I am sorry dame
Don't let me ruin your day
I would like to delete that other thread but I won't
because your replies like a little bit a sunshine for me on a bad day.
Actually it was a good day in many ways
but one angry moment soured it for me.

It was not an erotic dream it might have seemed that way at first then I realized what it was, me in the womb looking out at the world I was coming into.

Enculturation is a mothe fuckcer for me
another womb we are born into
the extro biological womb of culture that shapes us
who can escape it
Anais Nin Henry Miller people like that
Who can rise above it.
live a life that is truly their own

I feel like I have started a new page.
Speaking of Karma

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Post by SadLuckDame » November 10th, 2009, 8:21 pm

`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Post by stilltrucking » November 10th, 2009, 9:31 pm

I got to boot up my other computer to watch them. Thanks.
I hope your court day goes as you want it tomorrow.

Joseph Campbell called it the Holy Grail, to live a life of ones own. Henry did for sure.

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Post by SadLuckDame » November 10th, 2009, 10:17 pm

It was stressful, but it's over for now. I wish he'd just appreciate that I don't screw him. He won't.

I think Henry could be one of the most influential of men writers I've read. He speaks to all these raw things inside me. I can't help but smile. I used to blush when first reading him.

I like when he says about the guy and his lady who both kept diaries to share with one another. I would of pretended. I thought it so funny.

He just writes like I think when I think of what men would think.
A man like that is o.k. by me.

But, I do want to tell you I'm exploring newer to me writers to get a broader idea. I'm looking more into Plath now. I don't know if she's caught a lot of my interest, but I'll keep reading. Her book The Bell Jar sounds like something I'd enjoy. I just don't fall with her poetry yet.

That's the truth.
And Anais too lived a life of her own in her style. I find it thrilling that two such strong characters as her and Henry, just influenced each other without ruining their own unique ways.
Two planets.
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Post by stilltrucking » November 10th, 2009, 11:28 pm

Some books just hook me from the first line, Nietzsche's The Birth Of Tragedy like that and The Bell Jar. The blonde shiksa who was so stupid about executions that queer sultry summer day they executed the Rosenbergs. I don't expect my white friends to understand what it felt like to be a Jew boy in America on that day.

She is my catfish. My muse.

She sings her Mad Girl's Love Song to Me.

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Post by SadLuckDame » November 11th, 2009, 2:31 am

She is my catfish. My muse.

She sings her Mad Girl's Love Song to Me.
I don't know what it felt like to be a Jew boy, but I do knows about catfish. I caught one once. I kept it in a rain barrel. I let him go.
He had whiskers. I saw another one, but he'd stayed elusive. There was no catching him. But, I forgot what it was like to be lonely after that.
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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Post by stilltrucking » November 11th, 2009, 7:02 am

Image Leo Frank died for my sins.

I don't expect white people to understand. I noticed that a while back. So I shine it on.

Can you imagine what it felt like to be a Jew girl?

Or a black boy?
or girl?

For me it was a mixture of shame and paranoia. I was much more a patriot in my youth. I still believed all the evil in the world was overseas in places like Germany and Japan. And Americans were the good guys.

Only one Jew was ever lynched in the south. America has been good to us, and we had the blacks to take the heat off of us. Amazing to read about the Jews in the ante bellum south celebrating Passover their release from slavery as their black slaves served the passover meal. Yes yes yes I think I may be on the verge of getting a grip on Irony. They say the Christ Jesus was a master of irony.

Hell more Quakers have been lynched here than Jews.

It touched me that this WASP college girl could feel compassion for us.

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Thinking about the pilot that landed his plane in the Hudson RIver in new york and saved all those lives. Someone asked him if he was praying and I think he said "no I was too busy and I figured there were plenty of people sitting behind who were praying"

ramble ramble
Most of the close calls I have had trucking were just a matter of staying cool on my stool and doing very little. Something I learned from a combat veteran I used to run sleeper team with. He was watching me driving and asked why I had such a white knuckled death grip on the wheel. And I told him about the blow out on the steer axle that happened a couple years before. He told me to chillax because if another emergency happened I would be all tensed up and no good. It was good advice.
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Post by stilltrucking » November 11th, 2009, 7:18 am

Speaking of the air force do you know jimboloco?
I wish I was half the man he is. He would be a good one ask about what it feels like to be a man. Not a back stabbing son of bitch like me.


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Post by SadLuckDame » November 11th, 2009, 10:25 am

Most men make death, then most women create light from it. My job as a female, to walk through it and imagine it'll breathe somehow.
My Grandfather couldn't get the wars out of his head. They'd never left him. My Grandmom made a lot of wine in their years, so much wine that I've four bottles of it on my shelf.
`Do you know, I was so angry, Kitty,' Alice went on...`when I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window, and putting you out into the snow! And you'd have deserved it, you
little mischievous darling!
~Lewis Carroll

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