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Hellenism and Pessimism

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 8:01 pm
by stilltrucking
http://records.viu.ca/~johnstoi/Nietzsc ... #criticism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_Tragedy

http://www.archive.org/stream/thebirtho ... t_djvu.txt

http://2020ok.com/books/74/the-birth-of ... y-2774.htm

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WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE

Some years before, when the Greeks who had conquered the entire known world first met the Jews, they were astonished. They'd never encountered people like this before. On the positive side the intellectual, spiritual and legal aspects of Judaism were totally unique and no doubt fascinating to the philosophical Greeks.

If Hellenization is a process, it must have at one extreme the purely Greek culture, religion and all. At the other extreme was a stubborn adherence to the rules imposed by Ezra. Palestinian Jews, “the Hebrews”, had reason for concern when they saw their temple taken over by “the Greeks”—Hellenized Jews. It was only a question of time before Yehouah became Zeus, and surely that is the point about the “Abomination of Desolation”. It is simplistic to say that “Jews were unique and did not lose their identity”. The early success of Christianity was precisely because it appealed to those Hellenized Jews that were crossing the boundary from Judaism.



http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48939692.html

http://www.studioeight.tv/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=17645

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashi

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... -Rashi.htm


.Rashi

http://www.nextbookpress.com/bookseries/9066/rashi/

Posted: January 3rd, 2010, 12:08 am
by SadLuckDame
I've not had a chance to read through the links yet, though I've pulled them up to and will tonite, I wanted to give my thoughts on tragic, in it's early first thoughts. I watched The White Countess, a very good movie, but it keys in on tragic-- so I'd already begun thinking on it too.

My thoughts are nuts as usual. I'm one to expect sad, and a "That's life" point of view. I don't think of happy futures or even a fully happy day. To expect the downs, as the expected and treasure the short ups. I do believe most become depressed due to a flip on this, they may expect happy and feel troubled on the downs--as if the downs shouldn't be--. An easy way to become depressed then, and often.

I've established a healthy inner imagination to survive all of the disappointments and to let linger those brief, very brief goodness, good times, laughing in joy. I'm confident with life, because I've stored up what it is I truly like and use it plenty in my head.

I'd not want to know truly tragic times, such as war on my actual door step, or being victim of tragedies such as the holocaust or Wounded Knee or Salem trials or in an asylum such as One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest, etc..etc..etc.. Nothing such as any true tragedy has ever happened to me, nor would I welcome it, be curious enough to want it, no gonzo journalism in tragedy for me.

But, I question if adapting to such painful days, would strengthen their imagination, or mind. How the mind can adapt and change to survive. What exactly would their mind's do? We know bodies adapt to work load, to absence of food, or water, or healthy air, a number of conditions, but the mind? What becomes of the mind?

I know it's prolly a dull 'want to know' to most, but I'm a beginner in the thought processes and intelligence, etc. so to me I've an interest. Guess we start questioning somewhere.

Posted: January 3rd, 2010, 4:00 am
by still.trucking
It is all baby steps for me dame. I feel like I just got here.
The longer the I live I am finding more stuff I don't know anything about. The less and less I know. Pretty soon I will know nothing. But sometimes I wonder if the dead do know something?

I don't know how to think either

I feel like Hesse's Steppenwolf drowning in an ocean of thoughts
in that dark sea within me.
One of these days I will sink into it like a rock.


I am just making some notes for myself. Nietzsche and lsd left me with a passion for Greek Mythology. They say the Greeks invented historical science and the Jews invented historical religion. A hell of a mix if you ask me which you did not. I am starting to read The Birth of Tragedy again. Which is also called Pessimism and Hellenism. Or The Birth of Tragedy from the Spirit of Music.

The New Testament was written in Greek. By Hellenized Jews. Not much to read on this thread yet dame.

Poor old Nietzsche don't know what he missed.
He never got a kiss
Lou Salome turned him down for Rilke.
Interesting movie called When Nietzsche Wept. Looks like a chick movie to me. Might check it out sometime.


As usual I feel like Charlie Chaplin. Not that I am a comedic genius or anything.

That website thing I told you about is not working as well as I hoped. What I am hoping to do is link all these random text boxes together into one hyper text document. But I am having a problem with the upload of my html documents.

RE:
Mindy McAdams
Hypertext Breakdown

I am very interested in HTML. hyper text mark up language which is the lingua franca of the net. Jack Kerouac would probably be writing spontaneous HTML if he were here today.

There used to be a website called the church of the good html.
I wish I had joined


Their is so much more now that I don't know.
Everyday I live it seems I know less and less
Now the web has moved on to things like XML which I am clueless about.

I did the web page for a truck stop I worked at years ago. Did it pretty much by hand.

http://www.whitestruckstop.com

I don't need ya dame
I just miss you when you are gone
There ain't no sunshine when you are gone
always liked that song.

Likes this one too

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Posted: February 6th, 2010, 5:40 pm
by still.trucking