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Republican Double-Speak Ignores the Facts

Posted: September 4th, 2008, 11:21 pm
by roxybeast
I'm sitting here listening to the Republicans tout their independent candidate at their party convention. It's funny how they claim to want the same things that Democrats talked about wanting at their convention last week. For example,

Like the Democrats, the Republican speakers talk about more energy independence (and they want more offshore drilling in protected areas although the world's foremost expert on oil T. Boone Pickens calls this only a stop-gap measure, not a long term solution). The Republicans have had 8 years to bring us closer to energy independence and instead the indisputable fact is that we are much, much farther away from that goal than 8 years ago, with oil well over $100 a barrel, and virtually no new independent energy sources having been developed - no new nuclear plants built, no geothermal power stations, and very few new coal or wind plants (which have resulted from private interests instead of the efforts of the Bush administration and its policies).

The Republicans talk about wanting to protect our environment, but it is well documented that their Republican administration has fought very hard to have white house officials alter scientific reports to act like global warming is a made-up issue, so that they can protect business practices which actually make the situation worse.

They talk of wanting less government and less governmental spending, despite their current Republican administration having taken us from a balanced budget to trillions and trillions in national debt & a severely weakened US dollar.

They talk of wanting better education and schools for our children, while their Republican administration has severely cut funding for education & schools, slashes educational funds to US veterans returning from war, and undermine college loan & scholarship programs. Democrats want to give teachers more authority in the classroom and higher salaries, to fund veteran educations, to enact programs to ensure our children get good educations from pre-school through college. The

Republicans talk about wanting better health care, but want to privatize health insurance. But under their watch, their privatized system, lots of folks can't afford insurance or are automatically disqualified or dropped for having suffered a catastrophic illness (which incidentally results in lots of other societal problems and costs they don't want to address). Millions and millions of Americans are uninsured, which is also causing crisis in our hospital emergency health care system. The Democrats want each & every one of us to be insured & receive necessary health care.


Republicans talk of wanting to stop the shipment of American jobs overseas, yet their Republican administration's economic and tax policies have rewarded companies that do so and actually encourage them to do so.

Republicans talk of wanting to improve the economy, but under the watch of the Republican administration we are worse off than eight years ago, bankruptcies have skyrocketed, foreclosures are out of control, and unemployment rates have increased. Their banking deregulation policies allowed banks to line their pockets and engage in unsafe and risky loan practices which resulted in rampant fraud and foreclosures. Under their watch, CEOs homes and assets are protected in bankruptcy, while the paychecks of their workers are not. They enact policies encouraging American companies to ship jobs overseas & wonder why unemployment rates are increasing.

Republicans want to run up our national debt by trillions, but avoid any fiscal responsibility - no new taxes - so that ultimately your children have to pay for their excesses. They want to actually continue with their tax cuts for the wealthy, under the theory that if they get tax breaks they will create new jobs or their wealth will trickle down to the rest of the poor slobs who have to work for a living. Which, as we have seen over the last eight years under their Republican administration IS NOT TRUE. Unemployment rates have increased. Those wealthy have shipped US jobs overseas. They have not created lots of new jobs. The rest of us are not better off economically. Democrats simply want a fair, less complicated tax system with less loopholes for the wealthy & a tax cut benefiting those actually deserving one - the poor & middle class.

Republicans talk of "winning the war" ... when the truth is that we still lose hundreds of soldiers each month, we are spending trillions of dollars funding a war while Iraq earns trillions of dollars in oil revenues that they do not repay to us (why are we mortgaging our children's futures to fund their defense when they can do it themselves?), AND WE STILL HAVE NOT FOUND OSAMA BIN LADEN. They absolutely refuse to discuss or even acknowledge the fact that their Republican administration knowingly misled us in obtaining the authorization for the war. Our soldiers have DIED because of this lie - yet they act like those deaths were strictly necessary ... when they weren't and still aren't. John McCain wants to continue this war and our presence in Iraq for many, many years, while the Democrats want to bring our troops home with dignity, quickly, and stop the continued and unaffordable drain on our national treasury. They refuse to invade Pakistan and other areas where we actually know our true enemies are hiding.

Gov. Palin says she said no to the bridge to nowhere, but she favored it up until it was clear it was already dead ... and then, KEPT the $230 million for her state anyway.

The Republicans seem to talk a good game. Unfortunately for their party, the record of the sitting Republican administration belies all of the promises they make. It's hard to believe what they say when their actions when in power are frequently to the contrary.

And frankly, sitting here watching Gov. Palin's speech, she seems to make a better hockey mom than she does a Vice-Presidential candidate. She does not seem ready. Her lack of real understanding or experience with foreign policy matters was apparent.

As always, I'd love to hear your thoughts and comments

Posted: September 4th, 2008, 11:32 pm
by Lightning Rod
good to see you back, Beth
this is a very lawyerly analysis

I'll look forward to your comments as this election campaign proceeds

Posted: September 5th, 2008, 3:52 pm
by Nazz
Pretty much sums up my views. Nice work. I do appreciate it.

Conservative e-mail claiming Obama lies is itself false

Posted: September 8th, 2008, 8:04 pm
by roxybeast
NOTE--Read my response at the bottom before proceeding ... :) Beth

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: tory stinnett
Date: Sep 8, 2008 4:42 PM


Beth, Here's a little Obama double-speak for you:


TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT. (With quite a few Links to verify things yourself)

Obama's Not Exactlys:

1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles a bout its various untruths.)
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more.
Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www. arcadeathome. com/newsboy. phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6. 25%25_African
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http://www. wnd. com/index. php?fa=PAGE. view&pageId=60559
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .
30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.
35.) I don't Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russan army did the liberating

Tory
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Tory:

You should actually fact check such crap before just believing it and sending it out to all your friends. www. snopes. com says virtually all of the points made in this e-mail you cut and pasted are just bullshit:

http://www. snopes. com/politics/obama/50lies. asp

Before spreading more false rumours, here's a thorough examination of all the statements circulating the internet by snopes. com:

http://www. snopes. com/politics/obama/obama. asp

Peace,
Beth