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though i speak with the tongue of angels
Posted: August 11th, 2009, 8:04 pm
by constantine
how can freedom exist
within this duality
some are free to live
others to die
a cost effective democracy
hard to reconcile freedom
against crushing realities
am i less worthy of life
than a richer man
is my health to be another
product i can't afford
life, liberty, pursuit of happiness,
but the greatest of these is life
yea, though i speak
with the tongue of angels
if i have not money,
i will not be heard
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 1:38 am
by stilltrucking
good stuff dino
you have not wasted a word here
Occam's razor got nothing on you
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 5:55 am
by stilltrucking
maybe you have wasted a word
don't put no stock in what I say
I just thought it was right on.
Our decadent democracy.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:02 am
by constantine
thanks jack. the system sucks in a variety of ways.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:09 am
by stilltrucking
I think it has always sucked.
Maybe more now but even so
Some people write about the golden age the good old days
Of Woodrow Wilson say
And his 14 points
Yeah tell me another fairy tale
Yes the good old days
When we went to war to make the world safe for J P Morgan and company.
People have no memory
These are my good old days
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:14 am
by constantine
you speak the truth, sahib. the nation was designed to benefit the big boys from day one and nothing has changed - at least not in its essence.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:33 am
by stilltrucking
it is the best of times
and the worst of times
Some things have changed for the better
Some for the worse
Technology is going to doom us or save us.
Free us or enslave us
Maybe it already has.
Hitler the first one to use technology to control the masses, i.e. radio.
It is interesting to me that Goebbels kept a couple of books by Freud's nephew on his shelf.
Edward Bernays, the father of public relations.
Bernays learned a lot from his uncle
How to use unconscious fears and desires to manipulate the herd.
The Century of The Self
I am part of the herd too
Hard to free myself from the trance of culture.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:35 am
by constantine
there are always practical applications. i'll have to check into this bernays fellow.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:40 am
by stilltrucking
That link is the first part of a four part series from BBC on how
those in power use the primitive forces within human beings to manipulate the masses.
How those in power have used Freud's theory\ies to control the dangerous crowd in the age of mass democracy.
Talk radio is harmless, just words Rush Limbaugh says.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:44 am
by constantine
i will watch it after i get home in the evening; the british are pretty good at it too!
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 7:06 am
by stilltrucking
Ok I hope you are not disappointed
How to brainwash a nation.
Edward Bernays The Assassin of Democracy
Talk at you later
I hope your day goes well.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 7:19 am
by constantine
cool! i'll talk to you later on.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 10:00 am
by the mingo
Drive on boys
'til we are driven into the ground
I'll drive my socks too !
Hey Dino ! Enjoyed.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 4:10 pm
by constantine
hey mingo! good to hear from you. hope things are going well at your end.
Posted: August 13th, 2009, 12:00 am
by still.trucking
later
I am not sure it helps to understand how it is done.
Is there any benefit to making unconscious misery conscious? It is for me. But you already know I am bat shit crazy. I would rather be aware than happy. That is my pursuit.
Such an evil looking old man. Bernays I mean not Goebbels. Goebbels was funny looking.
you said it all in the poem
and this is chit chat
I like chit chat
Me and Gertrude do it all the time.