Arrest Bush and Chenney

[tonyc]

Ok great, now we're making headway...so you guys agree with everything I said, I knew you'd come to your senses.
So what is it you guys want me to feel, ashamed, belittled, stupid...I don't get it, you lose me.
It's obvious by now you're both fighting a losing battle, you're borderline talking to yourselves.
You do realize by now, I'm not buying a dimes worth of your bullshit, right?
OK, great, now, let's move on and rally to get Bush arrested, it's the least we can do for our beloved country that Bush and his pirates so politely pissed on.

[Arcadia]

(just a digresion)

one of our ex-pres in justice-tour today. See:

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultim ... 03-09.html

[Nazz]

Ok great, now we're making headway...so you guys agree with everything I said, I knew you'd come to your senses.

Yes, we agree that the world is made up of damn retards and queers and Jews, and the only way to make any sort of point is shout it over everyone else like some deranged, mouth-breathing asshole, not too unlike those deranged, mouth-breathing assholes who whipped us all into a frenzy to invade Iraq and lynch that money-grubbing, murdering dictator in Iraq, because we weren't going to buy a dime's worth of his bullshit for another minute. Yes, I think you've demonstrated that for us here quite nicely! Rock on, Attila!

So what is it you guys want me to feel, ashamed, belittled, stupid...I don't get it, you lose me.

If you have to ask...

You do realize by now, I'm not buying a dimes worth of your bullshit, right?

If I loaned you a dime, maybe?

OK, great, now, let's move on and rally to get Bush arrested, it's the least we can do for our beloved country that Bush and his pirates so politely pissed on.

They weren't polite.

[XPress]

Ok great, now we're making headway...

Not really.

so you guys agree with everything I said, I knew you'd come to your senses.

Nope, I'm not homophobic, racist, ageist, or myopic, so I can't claim to agree with most of what you've said.

So what is it you guys want me to feel, ashamed, belittled, stupid...I don't get it, you lose me.

No, you get it, but then you try to twist and turn, sorry, won't work with me, Tony, you're not 7 anymore, and this isn't the schoolyard.

No one said they WANTED you to feel ashamed of anything, the observation was that you clearly feel ashamed of your views, which is why you are afraid to admit to them, but instead lash out at others, and lie and distort so much.

It's a gulf of difference from the words you just tried to put into peoples mouths.

It's obvious by now you're both fighting a losing battle, you're borderline talking to yourselves.

Only in your world of make believe, Tony.

You do realize by now, I'm not buying a dimes worth of your bullshit, right?

Nope, I realize by now you are a very poor bullshit artist, who is trying desperately to pretend he doesn't care less that everyone can see him standing there as naked as the emperor in his new clothes.

[Doreen Peri]

Frankly, I don't understand the direction this thread has gone in.

Why all the personal stabs to each other?

one person posts, says he thinks Bush should be held accountable for his war crimes and other crimes against the Constitution

others disagree about how to do this and when

and then there's mud slinging from both sides back and forth

what a waste of energy

[Nazz]

I don't see it as a waste of energy at all. Not really. It's about addressing a lynch mob mentality among other things. lt's all related. Plus, I just don't take kindly to being shouted at and insulted.

[Doreen Peri]

OK sorry.

I really didn't read the whole thing. Just catching glimpses.

Was just my opinion from the glimpses.

Shouldn't have expressed an opinion without reading more thoroughly.

[Nazz]

No worries, Doreen. You make a valid point too. It's probably time to check out of this one. I mean, technically I already agreed with the thread starter I guess-- well, sort of. Anyway...

btw... In denouncing deranged (maybe "fire-breathing" is better), mouth-breathing assholes (above), I ended up approximating one myself, didn't I? Hell, I guess I kind of do it too, don't I? Oh the ironies never stop.

[tonyc]

Nazz

In denouncing deranged (maybe "fire-breathing" is better), mouth-breathing assholes

Naw, you don't attack personally, you're a sweetheart
Nice post, full of slander, pity and utter bullshit.
And you're the one crying about personal attacks? thanks for the laugh, you are kidding right?

Again, you boys are the ones slinging shit, twisting words and attacking.
Like I said, I could really care if you agree with me or not.
It's you boys who are pounding this thread with some bullshit about being a singing, dancing, regular guy (what the hell ever that is), attacking me personally and outright namecalling.
Face it, you don't like the idea of Bush being held to account.
You decided to attack me personally instead of attacking the message.
I don't play nice, talk nice or anything nice, never claimed otherwise.
Like I've said a dozen times, noone's twisting your arms to read my post, if you don't like my style, don't read it.
I've seen this tactic often, it's nothing new.
Attack a good thread with bullshit, attack the messenger, hope he bites the bait and hope like hell it get's deleted or locked...it's the oldest tactic in the book.
Like it or not..Bush needs to be held account for his crimes, you can spin, attack, stomp your feet, hijack the thread, pull out your hair or kill yourselves...don't change shit.
I still stand by what I said.
Bush is the most dangerous threat to world peace and prosperity.
He's done more damage to this country than all terror attacks combined, including 9-11
He needs to be arrested and put behind bars.
Now these are undeniable facts. 80% of the American public and most of the planet agree with me.
My character, debate style or any other issues you brought into this thread are irrelevant.
Now, again, back to topic....(still don't get what a singing, dancing, regular guy is or what the hell it has to do with this thread )

[XPress]

Frankly, I don't understand the direction this thread has gone in.

Why all the personal stabs to each other?

one person posts, says he thinks Bush should be held accountable for his war crimes and other crimes against the Constitution

others disagree about how to do this and when

and then there's mud slinging from both sides back and forth

what a waste of energy

I'd have to echo Nazz's views, what's kept me in this thread is reading the racist, homophobic, ageist, myopic, dishonest, spin and lies, supporting a lynch mob mentality, and whatever my views on Bush that's something I can never subscribe too.

[XPress]

Nazz

In denouncing deranged (maybe "fire-breathing" is better), mouth-breathing assholes

Naw, you don't attack personally, you're a sweetheart
Nice post, full of slander, pity and utter bullshit, and you're the one crying about personal attacks? thanks for the laugh, you are kidding right?

Again, you boys are the ones slinging shit, twisting words and attacking.
Like I said, I could really care if you agree with me or not.
It's you boys who are pounding this thread with some bullshit about being a singing, dancing, regular guy (what the hell ever that is)
Face it, you don't like the idea of Bush being held to account.
You decided to attack me personally instead of attacking the message.
I don't play nice, talk nice or anything nice, never claimed otherwise.
Like I've said a dozen times, noone's twisting your arms to read my post, if you don't like my style, don't read it.
I've seen this tactic often, it's nothing new.
Attack a good thread with bullshit, attack the messenger, hope he bites the bait and hope like hell it get's deleted or locked...it's the oldest tactic in the book.
Like it or not..Bush needs to be held account for his crimes, you can spin, attack, stomp your feet, hijack the thread, pull out your hair or kill yourselves...don't change shit.
I still stand by what I said.
Bush is the most dangerous threat to world peace and prosperity.
He's done more damage to this country than all terror attacks combined, including 9-11
He needs to be arrested and put behind bars.
Now these are undeniable facts. 80% of the American public and most of the planet agree with me.
My character, debate style or any other issues you brought into this thread are irrelevant.
Now, again, back to topic....(still don't get what a singing, dancing, regular guy is or what the hell it has to do with this thread )

Why do you feel the compulsion to lie so much, Tony?

[tonyc]

Now you're calling me a liar, so that has what to do with Bush being held to account?
Do you know what staying on topic means?
No, I won't play your game or bite the bait, way above that cheap game, sorry "nice guy".
Hey, thought you and your buddy was outa here, thought you'd give it just one more try huh?
Man you boys are getting way too serious, (and desperate)

[Nazz]

Tony C, for someone who has slung as much or more bullshit and attacks in this thread as anyone, you sure talk a good game at least.

Face it, you don't like the idea of Bush being held to account.

Oh knock it off. I mean, any fool can try to bully and berate everyone else, put words in their mouth, make up shit when it suits them and claim they're "winning" something. Congratulations.

I don't play nice, talk nice or anything nice, never claimed otherwise.

You also haven't a clue about related (though perhaps slightly differing) or parallel views brought into a thread, which is normal in any discussion, so you basically try to steamroll anything that you suspect might even slightly "challenge" your righteous, narrow cause, and stomp around about your precious thread being "hijacked".

Yes, Bush needs to be held accountable. Didn't we all basically agree on this? Yes. Bush needs to go to prison-- I think so, at least. And I think for now they're at least doing investigations in DC. And the need for bipartisanship makes it tricky. And Americans also need to check their self-righteous "lone superpower" imperial hubris in general. All of these sorts of things that were discussed above (adjunct to the main topic) and more. So what's with the tough guy routine? You're right-- don't take it seriously, it must be satire or something.

[XPress]

Now you're calling me a liar

Not now I've shown it for quite a while, you are someone who has a compulsion to lie, insult, and try to bully and badger people

Hey, thought you and your buddy was outa here, thought you'd give it just one more try huh?

You mean you thought if you behaved like a child we'd all run away?

Is that what you're trying to say?

Tbh I'm not really sure anymore, as you tell so many lies, and spin so much that it's not always possible to get the gist that you're going for.

Man you boys are getting way too serious, (and desperate)

Do you know how silly you look?

[XPress]

Tony, I'll take my hat off to you, I'm 19, and yet you're making me look, and feel, like a mature, educated man, rather than the youthful greenhorn I really am.

That takes some doing.