America, the Wealthy.

[mnaz]

If you can't deal, if you can't hang with it,
go back to the shitholes you came from.
Capital isn't polite, and it comes for you if
you try to mess with the Money Tribes.

[mnaz]

Are we starting to get this shtick?

[theirishsea]

shtick it


Is trump a grump or just a sump pump?

[mnaz]

I just read The Great Gatsby (finally).

It was pretty much the same 98 years ago.

Overrated book (which one isn't?), but still pretty damn good..

[wylde]

the intent is to make the masses so broke
that they cant pay attention

and has always been

just never so successfully

.

[wylde]

Boeing's travails show what's wrong with modern capitalism

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... _clipboard

"Deregulation means a company once run by engineers is now in the thrall of financiers and its stock remains high even as its planes fall from the sky"

blah blah

[saw]

capitalism is like a sadistic game of musical chairs
someone is always finding themselves without a seat......at the table
it's a glorified ponzi scheme with manipulated data
to keep you believing
unfettered growth is not only unrealistic, it's impossible
and the fat cats know that
collateral damage is more than acceptable to the big boyz

[mnaz]

The funny, I mean, kinda disturbing, thing about it is, ya gotta give capitalism its due. Ya gotta respect it. It does make the most, uh, well, you know, sense of anything out there. Of anything we humans have come up with on a large scale, to date. I mean, as the best way to "give us what we need," or, is that want? (As it has self-defined and self-perpetuated.) It's one of those "shooting curves" that exist in math, but can't actually be sustained in nature...

[mtmynd]

The funny, I mean, kinda disturbing, thing about it is, ya gotta give capitalism its due. Ya gotta respect it. It does make the most, uh, well, you know, sense of anything out there. Of anything we humans have come up with on a large scale, to date. I mean, as the best way to "give us what we need," or, is that want? (As it has self-defined and self-perpetuated.) It's one of those "shooting curves" that exist in math, but can't actually be sustained in nature...

Capitalism vs Socialism .... and that's about it??? Two theories for Seven Billion plus humans all over this planet and we should be grateful for either economic system to take care of all of us? Give me a friggin' break... there has got to be thousands of people who know of a better system that what we have dealt with for far too long. Cripes! It's the 21stC and we have to find a better way to take care of each other...or come to the greatest threats of war literally eliminate all of humanity PLUS our resources in two days time.

Hiring these world leader to guide us from country to country is BULL SHIT! The word POLITICS has to be redefined to fit the world. period.

[wylde]

[mnaz]

Cec, totally agree. Far too binary for too long. And I would hope that at least some of the next would-be leaders are starting to understand this..

Wylde, yes, no propaganda pitch or "Final Solution" is ever just what it seems if one extends the lens a bit ...

[wylde]

All of us who have feasted off the carcass of a dying planet bear some responsibility, but those of us who got paid to know what was happening and failed to find a way to tell you have our own special blame to carry. And for that, I am truly sorry.

From now on I will try to be honest with you.


https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/01-07- ... mentalist/


i too am sorry, for being a wheel within a wheel in the windmills of destruction.
i could have tried harder.

[sasha]

All of us who have feasted off the carcass of a dying planet bear some responsibility, but those of us who got paid to know what was happening and failed to find a way to tell you have our own special blame to carry. And for that, I am truly sorry.

...

i too am sorry, for being a wheel within a wheel in the windmills of destruction.
i could have tried harder.

I think it's safe to say that everyone here, at one time or another, has chosen self-interest over greater good. I'm sure I have. I've used spray-deodorant; driven a car with bad oil seals; still heat with #2 oil; have not yet replaced all my incandescent bulbs with LEDs; etc. I have worked within the casualty insurance industry (fwhich earns its keep by legislated fearmongering); the disposable medical-products industry (whose wares fill landfills and contaminate alleyways); and the machine tool industry (keep those smokestacks belching, baby). I can't undo what I've contributed to - but I can stop the contributions. A thousand tiny pushes can move an ocean liner.

[wylde]

All of us who have feasted off the carcass of a dying planet bear some responsibility, but those of us who got paid to know what was happening and failed to find a way to tell you have our own special blame to carry. And for that, I am truly sorry.

...

i too am sorry, for being a wheel within a wheel in the windmills of destruction.
i could have tried harder.

I think it's safe to say that everyone here, at one time or another, has chosen self-interest over greater good. I'm sure I have. I've used spray-deodorant; driven a car with bad oil seals; still heat with #2 oil; have not yet replaced all my incandescent bulbs with LEDs; etc. I have worked within the casualty insurance industry (fwhich earns its keep by legislated fearmongering); the disposable medical-products industry (whose wares fill landfills and contaminate alleyways); and the machine tool industry (keep those smokestacks belching, baby). I can't undo what I've contributed to - but I can stop the contributions. A thousand tiny pushes can move an ocean liner.

an old African saying: It takes 2 ants to move 1 cricket.


its is not that capitalism has failed. it has been too successful.
a self-devouring snake consuming without regard.

[mnaz]

Yes, a self-devouring snake.
with parallels in nature.
Predators and Prey.
Is that all we are?