Why liberalism is anti-liberal

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Why liberalism is anti-liberal

Post by Traveller13 » August 6th, 2005, 4:43 am

A consequence of liberalism is that it generates incompetence.
Let's say one day a high placed guy in a multinational has one person to promote, not to take his place but to go one step higher, ie closer to him.
Because the high placed guy's a liberal, he'd probably hire the most competent person avaliable, for the benefit of the enterprise.
Except that he reached where he is now by dealing with very competent people, and if he promotes someone who's good, and therefore give that someone an occasion to rise up even more after that, it'll potentially threaten his position. That's why, to avoid competition, he'd rather hire someone incompetent and counter-productive, who doesn't represent a menace.
And that's how incompetent people can find themselves in very high places.
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Post by stilltrucking » August 6th, 2005, 4:59 am

Not sure what it is called, maybe Peter Principle?
Every one rises until he reaches his level of incompetence.

Yes here it is.


in evolution systems tend to develop up to the limit of their adaptive competence

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The Peter Principle was first introduced by L. Peter in a humoristic book (of the same title) describing the pitfalls of bureaucratic organization. The original principle states that in a hierarchically structured administration, people tend to be promoted up to their "level of incompetence".
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/PETERPR.html

not exactly what you are saying but parallel
the guy who won't promote a more able person has reached his level of incompetence?

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Post by mnaz » August 6th, 2005, 11:44 am

I'm not sure what your example has to do with "liberalism", per se.
Corporate/office power politics, maybe, but "liberalism"?

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Post by hester_prynne » August 6th, 2005, 2:11 pm

Indeed, I have found this to be true in my job of searching for a job, which is pretty much fulltime and I hear this alot, although they usually just call it being "overqualified".

Makes it kinda cool to be unemployed, knowing you're just too good for the jobs out there anymore.....eh?

Heh

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Post by stilltrucking » August 7th, 2005, 1:09 am

Let's say one day a high placed guy in a multinational


Mine has to do with incompetence; I think your post has more to do with office politics? No idea what you are talking about with the liberalism thing. That is not a smart-ass remark Mr. Mnaz. That is a request for more info please. Do you mean a conservative would do things different? The peter principle applies across the board. It would not matter what flavor the bosses politics are.

Help me understand what your post has to do with liberalism
Maybe the problem is I don't know what liberalism is, I think of democrats and republicans and conservatives and politics

please

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Post by stilltrucking » August 7th, 2005, 1:54 am

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"overqualified".  
because the guy who is doing the hiring and promoting has reached his level of incompetence. If he was a competent manager he would do what needed to be done. Maybe that is the point? Would a hard core hard nosed self confident manager do doze things?

sorry but a guy who is so scared about losing his job don't sound competent to me. No balls.

sounds like a whimp to me.

hey i dont know nothing
forget about it.

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Post by gypsyjoker » August 7th, 2005, 9:00 pm

Mr. Mainz, let me say this first
of all the writers I have read on Studio *
you are the most easily to visualize.
I almost feel as if I have my sight back.
Stilltrucking you still my partner in crime but you ain’t right.

Manz, If the liberal was competent, he would not shy away from challenges, he would welcome them. RE : M-t mind post about work and play.



sorry traveller I forgot who started the string, I could say the same thing about your writing too, well not the samething manz got eyes

dam I mean I admirer your writting too.
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Post by e_dog » August 12th, 2005, 2:08 pm

the problem with "liberalism" -- the word -- is that people used it to make commentarties without knowing, or seeking to define, what is the meaning of the term.
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